P3d 5 issues with lighting

[JRBarrett 3,080]

I have just installed the new V5-enabled version of the L35A in P3D Version 5. The new installer (just downloaded about 2 hours ago), worked fine, I chose the P3D V5 option, and installation completed with no issues. After an initial load of the aircraft, I exited and ran the panel management tool, which again, worked fine. I just installed the new P3D V5 version of the RXP GTN-750 earlier today, and chose a single GTN-750 option, and on next load, the GTN was present, powered and working.

I have the LM F-35A set as my default flight, fully powered up - I then switch to the Lear.

Prior to installing Version 5, I removed my previous installation of P3D 4.5, so there are no traces of it left.

Overall, everything appears to be functioning well, but I have only a few lights working on the master warning panel, and no autopilot lights. Other cockpits lights are working great. Instrument backlights, floodlights, circuit breaker lights all work, and can be adjusted with the rheostats on  the side panels.

The aircraft starts already powered with engines running. I found that only some off the warning panel lights illuminate when pressing the light test switch as shown below

All warning panel lights are dark when starting with engines running. If I enable and disable the steering lock, the amber annunciator for the steering goes on and off as it should. (That is one of the lights that does come on during the lights test.)

But, if I switch off generators, or the stall warning system switches, I should see red annunciators come on for generators and stall warning, and they don't. (Those are among the annunciators that do not illuminate during the lights test.)

None of the green autopilot lights come on, but all autopilot functions are working.

I see there is a long thread here in the forum specifically about problems with the autopilot lights, and that that problem was apparently occurring for some users even prior to P3D V5. I did download the test Lear35.cab file that Al posted in his dropbox in one of the most recent posts in that thread, but it made no difference either in the autopilot lights, or the warning panel lights.

I have not added a lot to my new P3D V5 installation. I am running Orbx Global Base textures and OpenLC NA land class. The aircraft is parked at the default KELM, airport which is my r/w home base. I have no other add-on aircraft or scenery installed yet. I do have FSUIPC Version 6, and SODE installed, but no other utility or add-on software yet. I am using standard clouds, not the new enhanced True Sky enhanced atmospherics.

I'm about to go back to the panel management tool, and disable the RXP GTN-750 and re-enable the default FSW GNS to see if that makes any difference. I'll report back later with my results.

 

Additional info: I disabled the RXP GTN, and re-enabled the default GNS 530 but no change - again, only some of the warning panel annunciators work (same as in the above photo), and none of the autopilot lights.

 

Jim Barrett

Edited April 19, 2020 by JRBarrett
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[Adrian123 1,015]

I have found quite a few V4 aircraft with lighting issues. Seems they will need to be updated for V5.

[ark 1,291]

1 hour ago, JRBarrett said:

 again, only some of the warning panel annunciators work (same as in the above photo), and none of the autopilot lights.

 

Jim Barrett

Jim,

I assume you did NOT have any light problems in P3Dv4.5, is that correct?

And the pic you posted above is what you get when you push the light test button above the backup AI -- correct?

 I don't have P3Dv5 but Mark just installed it. Tomorrow I will ask him to try the light test button. Hopefully ( in a way) he finds some problems with the lights so the problem can be worked on. It is very frustrating when we can't reproduce a problem -- makes troubleshooting very difficult.

Maybe solving this P4Dv5 problem will shed some light on the similar P3Dv4.5 problem.

Thx,

Al

Edited April 19, 2020 by ark

[ark 1,291]

37 minutes ago, Adrian123 said:

I have found quite a few V4 aircraft with lighting issues. Seems they will need to be updated for V5.

Interesting -- thanks for the info.

Al

[JRBarrett 3,080]

6 minutes ago, ark said:

Jim,

I assume you did NOT have any light problems in P3Dv4.5, is that correct?

And the pic you posted above is what you get when you push the light test button above the backup AI -- correct?

Thx,

Al

No, had no problems in 4.5. It has been a couple of months since I last flew it, and my 4.5 installation is now completely gone. The light test button above the standby ADI was being pressed when I took the screen shot.

All cockpit internal lighting is working fine, (other than the missing warning panel and AP annunciations) as are all external lights.

[ark 1,291]

OK, as my edited post above says, I will try to get with Mark tomorrow and see what he sees with the Lear in P3Dv5.

Al

[ark 1,291]

34 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

All cockpit internal lighting is working fine, (other than the missing warning panel and AP annunciations) as are all external lights.

Just to clarify a bit more, when you pressed the light test button, lights on the main panel, like the three Marker lights, the Altitude Preselect inside the altimeter gauge, the yellow Decision Height lights and the PULL UP GPWS lights worked -- correct?

Thx,

Al

Edited April 19, 2020 by ark

[JRBarrett 3,080]

16 minutes ago, ark said:

Just to clarify a bit more, when you pressed the light test button, lights on the main panel, like the three Marker lights, the Altitude Preselect inside the altimeter gauge, the yellow Decision Height lights and the PULL UP GPWS lights worked -- correct?

Thx,

Al

Yes. The marker lights, the DH lights, the anti-skid lights - all illuminate during the test. When I do the separate test with the toggle switch next to the gear handle, the red "unsafe" lights illuminate, and the gear horn sounds.

Just to be on the safe side, I uninstalled the Lear, and re-installed it (version 4.3) with my anti-virus (default Windows Defender) turned completely off.

I then installed the Falcon 50 with the new 2.0 installer. Again, the master warning panel lights do not illuminate, but all the other lights do come on when pressing test: the green anti-skid LR lights, the hydraulic system low pressure lights, and all the annunciator lights on the overhead panel work correctly but not the MWP.

Just like in the Lear, none of the lights that would normally be illuminated on the master warning panel before engine start are working - . fuel pressure, generators,  bus tie etc. However, the related systems are working - just no annunciators.

Unlike the Lear, on the Falcon, the various autopilot buttons do illuminate when pressed.

Prepar3D is installed in a folder on my E: drive. It is not installed in the default C:\program files location, so file access permissions should not be a problem.

Jim Barrett

[ark 1,291]

2 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

Yes. The marker lights, the DH lights, the anti-skid lights - all illuminate during the test. When I do the separate test with the toggle switch next to the gear handle, the red "unsafe" lights illuminate, and the gear horn sounds.

I am trying to track something down so please confirm the yellow GPWS light to the left of the pilot's AOA gauge comes on when the light test button is pushed.

I appreciate your help with all this.

Al

[JRBarrett 3,080]

13 minutes ago, ark said:

I am trying to track something down so please confirm the yellow GPWS light to the left of the pilot's AOA gauge comes on when the light test button is pushed.

I appreciate your help with all this.

Al

If it is the light capsule just left of the AOA gauge, and just above the upper left corner of the attitude indicator, then no. it is not lighting during test.

[ark 1,291]

8 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

If it is the light capsule just left of the AOA gauge, and just above the upper left corner of the attitude indicator, then no. it is not lighting during test.

Ah, that is actually very helpful! Thanks for checking.

Al

[JRBarrett 3,080]

4 minutes ago, ark said:

Ah, that is actually very helpful! Thanks for checking.

Al

You're welcome! If there are any other tests I can do, please feel free to ask.

Just to be on the safe side, I temporarily uninstalled FSUIPC, SODE, and the new GTN-750, so now, other than the Orbx textures and land class, my P3D V5 installation is completely "stock". (Removing those add-ons made no difference though).

[ark 1,291]

5 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

You're welcome! If there are any other tests I can do, please feel free to ask.

Just to be on the safe side, I temporarily uninstalled FSUIPC, SODE, and the new GTN-750, so now, other than the Orbx textures and land class, my P3D V5 installation is completely "stock". (Removing those add-ons made no difference though).

I put together a test Learjet_35A.cab file which is at the Dropbox link below. If you could try this for me when time permits that would be helpful.  To try the test, backup the Learjet_35A.cab file you have in the Lear's panel folder by renaming it to something like Learjet_35A_BkUp.cab and then past in the test cab file in its place and restart the sim and see if it makes any difference in the lights.

Al

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y8ldddug3dh5jgj/Learjet_35A.CAB?dl=0

[JRBarrett 3,080]

15 minutes ago, ark said:

I put together a test Learjet_35A.cab file which is at the Dropbox link below. If you could try this for me when time permits that would be helpful.  To try the test, backup the Learjet_35A.cab file you have in the Lear's panel folder by renaming it to something like Learjet_35A_BkUp.cab and then past in the test cab file in its place and restart the sim and see if it makes any difference in the lights.

Al

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y8ldddug3dh5jgj/Learjet_35A.CAB?dl=0

No joy I'm sorry to say. No EGPWS lamp during test, and the same partial lighting of the main warning panel annunciators.

Jim Barrett

I'll be shutting down the sim for the evening, but will check back tomorrow if you have any other modifications to test. Thanks again!

[ark 1,291]

1 minute ago, JRBarrett said:

No joy I'm sorry to say. No EGPWS lamp during test, and the same partial lighting of the main warning panel annunciators.

Jim Barrett

I'll be shutting down the sim for the evening, but will check back tomorrow if you have any other modifications to test. Thanks again!

Well, that does at least tell me one thing that is NOT the problem, so still helpful.

Many thanks.

Al