October 17, 200619 yr Hi,i have a question... should we leave the AA and AF settings inside of FSX unchecked (like in FS9 for AA) and set it in the graphic card settings, or do things work differently in FSX now? I haven't find an answer for this yet.Thanks a lot and cheers,Michael
October 17, 200619 yr I have found that anisotropic filtering checked actually seemed to speed things up, whether this was because it coaxed my graphics card into doing some work or not, I don't know, but it did seem to run better with it switched on (I presume this is because AF means the card doesn't have to apply distance fades to objects so much, but that's just a guess).Antialiasing is always a big frame rate hog however, so I'd say switch it off if you are having issues, although I currently have it on in my FSX as it's running okay.Just in case you didn't know, although you probably do, AA gets rid of sawtoothing on your display, AF affects the sharpness of objects (particularly as they get more distant, which is not necessarily how the human eye perceives things, so it tends to detract from the realism in my opinion). They're a personal preference I guess depending on whether you're a fan of the impressionist artists or not :-) Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
October 17, 200619 yr this will vary massively from card to card, so i wouldn't really expect a definitive answer herefwiw, i got the best results, both quality- and performance-wise, by leaving the af "to the application" in the card's settings and setting fsx to anisotropic filtering internallysetting any amount of af on the card was causing a nasty distance shimmering of this amazing new waterset the aa as high as you can--watch only for performance loss and texture blurriness in the cockpit
October 17, 200619 yr Everyone I've heard, has said you have to set AA and AF inside the sim now.That's exactly opposite of what we did with FS2004.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2.5 ghz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (94.47), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2 GB Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8, WD 250 gig 7200 rpm SATA2, CoolerMaster Praetorian Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
October 17, 200619 yr What do you mean with "have to"?I didn't have to - my driver settings work just fine and give me better AA and AF (the built-in AF gives me a serious case of "sparkling pixels" while the driver-based AF is nice and smooth).This is with a Radeon X850XT PE.
October 17, 200619 yr interesting. looks like it's the exact opposite on nvidia (which actually recommends leaving af to the application)
October 17, 200619 yr >What do you mean with "have to"?>Well, you don't "have to", gosh you take me so literally. :) You are free to do what you want, of course. :)With my nvidia card, it FSX looks bad if you try to use driver settings for AA and AF.>I didn't have to - my driver settings work just fine and give>me better AA and AF (the built-in AF gives me a serious case>of "sparkling pixels" while the driver-based AF is nice and>smooth).>>This is with a Radeon X850XT PE.You are the first user to report this. It is, perhaps, because you have an ATI card as was suggested. I have not yet seen a user of an nvidia card report this. I await such a report...RhettAMD 3700+ (@2.5 ghz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (94.47), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2 GB Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8, WD 250 gig 7200 rpm SATA2, CoolerMaster Praetorian Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
October 18, 200619 yr >Well, you don't "have to", gosh you take me so literally. :)>You are free to do what you want, of course. :)Just making sure ;) >With my nvidia card, it FSX looks bad if you try to use driver>settings for AA and AF.That's pretty much the opposite to my experience, although it's not the only inconsistency I noticed - for some weird reason atleast some of the textures in FSX look better at 8xAF than 16xAF. Since that makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever, though, I'm inclined to think that my 256MB videocard simply runs out of memory trying to do 16xAF with the massive amount of textures FSX throws at it (on top of 4xAA), and it silently reverts to some lower AF setting.>You are the first user to report this. It is, perhaps,>because you have an ATI card as was suggested. I have not yet>seen a user of an nvidia card report this. I await such a>report...I don't know what causes it, but it's VERY annoying. As long as everything's still I'm ok, but as soon as I start moving around (which is bound to happen, planes want to fly and all that) the ground in the distance begins shimmering. Forcing AF through TrayTools fixes the problem (even at 2xAF, but I like 8x better).
October 18, 200619 yr Same here, I have the same card (X850XT PE) as Janne and it is true...Setting AA 2x and AF 8x through ATI Tray tools gives me nice and crisp textures in the sim. I tried setting AA and AF in FSX ("Application preference in TT) and got zillions of "marching ants" :) Curiously, the ants go almost completely away when an aircraft is banked - flying a turn(!). Athlon 64 3500+Radeon X850XT PE1Gb RAM (to be 2Gb soon)Regards,Jure
October 18, 200619 yr I experience the same thing as Janne and Jure. With AA and AF set in FSX, I get bad texture shimmering whereas setting AA and AF in the driver gives crisp, detailed textures.Athlon64 3500+2GB DDRATI X850XT
October 18, 200619 yr Commercial Member I've had the best results leaving them off in the sim and setting them in the Nvidia driver... Since there's absolutely no way to tell what specific settings it's activating, I think the driver has to be the preferred way until someone from ACES clarifies what the engine is actually doing when those in game options are enabled. Ryan MaziarzFor fastest support, please submit a ticket at http://support.precisionmanuals.com
October 18, 200619 yr Nvidia 91.31 x64 here on a 7900GT OC. So far, I think it looks best with: in game set to Trillinear and AA off. Nvidia driver AA 4x, AF 8x, Quality, Mip - Trillinear, Vertical Sync - off, Supersampling, Clamp LOD. Regards, Al Jordan | KCAE
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