May 28, 20206 yr So I am putting together a parts list to make an AP box and a Radio box. Im not sure whether it is better to go with an arduino route, or the bodnar route for the inputs. I do know I will need some sort of output board to send the radio frequencies, crs/hdg etc back out to the box, of which I am also unsure of what is the best board for this type of setup. The more specific question is what are the real differences between the bodnar 836 and the bbi32? From what I have read on his website, they both do encoders and buttons? This will be a strictly p3dv5 build with possibly also using in DCS. Any input or suggestions would be welcome. Nick Silver http://www.youtube.com/user/socalf1fan Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 64gb ddr4 3200mhz ram, RTX 4080 Super, HP Reverb G2 v2, 4K Tv Monitor
May 28, 20206 yr The BU0836 boards do 8 analog axes, an 8-way POV hat, and up to 32 buttons or single-pole switches. The BBI boards only do the buttons/switches. Both can also do rotary encoders--each one uses two of the switch channels. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
May 29, 20206 yr 8 hours ago, CaptainNick said: The more specific question is what are the real differences between the bodnar 836 and the bbi32? From what I have read on his website, they both do encoders and buttons? You can watch my hands-on experiments with each of these boards in the following video. MarkH https://www.youtube.com/@AlmostAviation AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D / 64Gb DDR5 / Zotac RTX 5070 Ti / 2560 x 1440 display
May 29, 20206 yr I would strongly recommend a MobiFlight solution (mobiflight.com), especially if you want to have LED indicators (including the AP 7-segment indicators) in addition to the buttons/ encoders. The software is free-of-charge, it's based on Arduino Mega or Chinese smaller-size clones that are much more covenient to assemble and is very easy to program. The guys are also providing a first-class support. Here is my rig https://yadi.sk/i/JeeLvjUetQHlvg (P3Dv4.5, also P3Dv5 is supported) with four modules (AP, EGIS, Radio and switches, 5 Arduino Mega's) based on MobiFlight. At the same time I seriously doubt that they support DCS, as it requires a totally different interface.
May 29, 20206 yr 23 minutes ago, SergeyPe said: I would strongly recommend a MobiFlight solution (mobiflight.com), especially if you want to have LED indicators (including the AP 7-segment indicators) in addition to the buttons/ encoders. I looked at MobiFlight briefly when I wanted to add LEDs but I went for Air Manager in the end. MobiFlight looked great for hooking up standard FSX or P3D functions but the way of accessing values from Lvars seemed awfully clunky, and my Twin Otter cockpit needs a lot of that. Air Manager, in contrast, can natively access Lvars and can also be scripted with Lua, allowing complex behaviours to be created. I only have one panel with outputs at the moment, but I have a hybrid approach with all the inputs managed by Bodnar boards while the outputs are managed by Air Manager driving an Arduino Mega. Air Manager could handle the input too, which would be a cleaner solution if starting from scratch. MarkH https://www.youtube.com/@AlmostAviation AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D / 64Gb DDR5 / Zotac RTX 5070 Ti / 2560 x 1440 display
May 29, 20206 yr 1 hour ago, MarkDH said: MobiFlight looked great for hooking up standard FSX or P3D functions but the way of accessing values from Lvars seemed awfully clunky Yes, I think in your case Air Manager is the best solution. My situation was different as I built the modules around PMDG's 737 and the current version of MobiFlight has all the specific PMDG offsets built-in, also making the complex logic possible without Lua scripting. And it's true that it's much less suitable for X-Plane, but for P3D it's quite good. Air Manager is quite a powerful platform but in my opinion it's also a bit more difficult for the beginner. Anyway, Air Manager or MobiFlight- in terms of hardware they both point to Arduino Mega.
May 30, 20206 yr Author Thank you for the responses. Time to look at all the options. Nick Silver http://www.youtube.com/user/socalf1fan Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 64gb ddr4 3200mhz ram, RTX 4080 Super, HP Reverb G2 v2, 4K Tv Monitor
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