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1 minute ago, Alcides Segovia said:

What resolution is your TV? I’m having issues with my 50IN TV as well and I am about to just buy a Monitor to solve this problem. But I am going to loose so much window space. 

My TV is native 1080p, and I run it at that resolultion. Have you been able to set it ti 30hz through the Windows display settings?  

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11 minutes ago, Peter Z KCLE_EDDN said:

My bad, it clearly said TV not monitor (smacking my forehead), but I’ll give this a shot for sure later on me 4K monitor.

Cheers, 

Pete

 

Some monitors do not allow changing the hz setting, so you will have to use the 1/2 setting in the vsync option in Nvidia / CP / inspector (assuming that your monitor is 60hz to begin with).

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1 hour ago, FlyBaby said:

My TV is native 1080p, and I run it at that resolultion. Have you been able to set it ti 30hz through the Windows display settings?  

You see mine is a 4K but when I set the resolution to 1929x1080 it’s all blurry inside the sim. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this? 


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5 minutes ago, Alcides Segovia said:

You see mine is a 4K but when I set the resolution to 1929x1080 it’s all blurry inside the sim. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this? 


Did you try running res at 4k, then adjusting render scaling down in MSFS? This may get you closer to 1080p performance without sacrificing as much quality.

 

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Does it still work if the TV is not HDR+ ? I noticed Auto motion smoothing is greyed out, when having my PC attached. 43" K series Samsung.

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4 hours ago, ZKOKQ said:

Does it still work if the TV is not HDR+ ? I noticed Auto motion smoothing is greyed out, when having my PC attached. 43" K series Samsung.

That’s the same for me. Changing the refresh rate to 30MHZ made the GPU work less. I noticed it went from being at 85C constantly to 65-76C 

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22 minutes ago, Alcides Segovia said:

That’s the same for me. Changing the refresh rate to 30MHZ made the GPU work less. I noticed it went from being at 85C constantly to 65-76C 

Yes I just found that out too. I am getting good smooth FPS now, with 30hz and 60FPS set in sim. Gave up on the smooth motion thing as it greys out when resolution is set at 3840 x 2160. It only worked at 4096 X 2160


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On 8/19/2020 at 4:04 AM, reignman40 said:

The stutters most of us are experiencing seem to be a bug and different from what you were experiencing. We are getting 100% or close to CPU usage with GPU usage all over the place, causing stutters. Even when getting 30-40 FPS, it looks like 20. 

Exactly that.

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9 hours ago, lifeofbrian said:

Exactly that.

I got my stutter problem figured out. It was caused by a program running in the background. lightingservice.exe, the sim runs smooth now.


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21 hours ago, FlyBaby said:


Did you try running res at 4k, then adjusting render scaling down in MSFS? This may get you closer to 1080p performance without sacrificing as much quality.

 

How do I do this? 


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21 hours ago, Alcides Segovia said:

You see mine is a 4K but when I set the resolution to 1929x1080 it’s all blurry inside the sim. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this? 

 

11 hours ago, Alcides Segovia said:

That’s the same for me. Changing the refresh rate to 30MHZ made the GPU work less. I noticed it went from being at 85C constantly to 65-76C 

 

18 minutes ago, Alcides Segovia said:

How do I do this? 

HI,

I want to make sure that I am understanding your questions...and not giving erroneous info.

Sounds like you can set your TV to 30hz

For 4k, you have to set 4k resolution in "both" the sim (under graphics option) and through the display properties in windows 10 (under settings > Display)

For render scaling, this option is the sim, in the graphics setting, a few lines below the resolution setting. You will want to be under 100, to scale down for better performance without sacrificing the visuals too much.

 

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15 hours ago, ZKOKQ said:

Does it still work if the TV is not HDR+ ? I noticed Auto motion smoothing is greyed out, when having my PC attached. 43" K series Samsung.

I am running a 2017 Q7 Samsung 4k "Qled" hdr TV....  There should be a setting in Input type in your TV settings, you will probably have to set that to something OTHER than PC.  The "PC" input type does not work with HDR.

Hope that helps.

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11 hours ago, mlmcasual said:

I am running a 2017 Q7 Samsung 4k "Qled" hdr TV....  There should be a setting in Input type in your TV settings, you will probably have to set that to something OTHER than PC.  The "PC" input type does not work with HDR.

Hope that helps.

It does, thank you. Will do some more digging.


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On 8/18/2020 at 4:47 PM, mlmcasual said:

Just got FS2020 running.  I am running an I9-9900K/2080TI on a 65" Samsung q7 (hdr  tv).  

Out of the box, I set everything to  4K,Ultra, and HDR.  Vsynch off.   and tried a few landing challenges. Seeing this on a modern HDR 4K TV  is photo-real.  

I was getting FPS ranging from 35 to 50.  However I noticed massive FRAME pacing stutter..  where frame to frame could change so drastically it would make it look jerky.

It would be smooth for a few seconds, hit a drop in FPS and that drop would cause a jarring stutter.

So, I set FS 2020 graphics to Vsynch on, and 30 FPS limit. I then turned on my Samsung TV (motion smoothing) which interpolates 30fps to 120fps. and  BEHOLD- now running a constant 30FPS that interpolates to 120FPS with no more jerkiness or drops.

I now see 120FPS looking hyper smooth flights. The TV does an amazing job of interpolating the motion and keeping everything sharp so it REALLY does look like a native 120hz even though it's being updated by FS at 30hz.

If you connect your HDR 4k TV to MS FS.. and do this trick.. even if you have to bump down the graphics settings, the advantage of getting a 120hz with no glitching/hickups is absoutely mindblowing ultra real and will take you to the next level- true REAL TIME looking motion.

I have flown in a small Cessna (centurion) many times and I noticed at this 120hz TV setting, the tiny micro motions from turbulence you see in real life get very accurately portrayed  in MSFS2020. 

Once you see this game at ultra being interpolated up to 120hz (with no stutters whatsoever) you can't unsee it you will be so amazed. If you have ever flown small prop planes in real-life, you know the one thing Flight sims have been missing is being able to portray the small fast changing motion of those fast small eddys that bounce you around. Seeing these small motions now.. and at 4k-ultra is true next level looking.

Worth a try if you can.

 

Can you post a video showing your 120fps 4K ULTRA .please.


 

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