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I learned a bit more geography today!!

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One of my recent flights (ongoing) is a trip from RAF Brize Norton to RAF Mount Pleasant in the Falkland Islands (A330 MRTT). My route passed over an area denoted on the FSX GPS as a small black-outlined square in the middle of nowhere in the Atlantic Ocean. The black lines on the FSX map usually denote country borders. This square was not near Ascension Island. Puzzled, I zoomed in and yet nothing shows, nor did I see anything when panning the view around in the sim. I inject live weather to the sim and the METAR was showing as coming from a Brazilian airfield situated on an island far closer to the Brazilian coast.

I eventually deduced that the border on the FSX map encloses this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Peter_and_Saint_Paul_Archipelago

Wow! All I can say is CRAZY BRAZILIANS!! My hat is off to you! 🍻:cool: I presume the researchers actually volunteer to go?? 

Apparently, four researchers live at this station and are rotated out every 15 days. 2 weeks in a hut next to a lighthouse on a bit of rock not that much bigger than a football field? In the middle of a vast ocean - well, 590 miles from the closest bit of South America??? :blink: Massive storms happen out at sea!! I don't think I'd want to go for a holiday there - a freak wave might just submerge the island it doesn't look very high. Perhaps I'm being too paranoid.. maybe I should put a request in for a bucket list trip?? :cool:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317350781_Saint_Peter_and_Saint_Paul_Archipelago_Brazil_in_the_mid_Atlantic

A nicely photographed pdf document should anyone wish to download it, read it and/or look at the fascinating pictures.

Mark Robinson

Part-time Ferroequinologist

Author of FLIGHT: A near-future short story (ebook available on amazon)

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Yes and as I recall there are the St. Peter and Paul Rocks which -- ya don't want to run into in a ship.

You sort of reproduced the Black Buck missions I guess.  In a way.

I think those islands would be ok with me in nice weather with Cindy Crawford or something.  For a few hours anyway.  Then I would want to take my toys and go home.

Rhett

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Another one worth noting is Sable Island off the coast of Canada, also a research station manned year round by 4 people, off limits to everyone else unless you get a permit, it has a herd of Wild Horses left over from the 1800s, they are now free to roam the island with a population around 500 now. I did have a friend that was one of the 4 guys on this island and he used to spend 360 days on the island and 5 days in Halifax every year, to shop, get a haircut, get provisions, etc, then back to the island for another 360 days. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sable_Island#Shipwrecks

Matthew Kane

I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me 

With global warming and rising sea levels some of those low lying islands might not be there by the end of the century.

Noel

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3 hours ago, birdguy said:

...some of those low lying islands might not be there by the end of the century.

Tectonic activity may well alter the geography also - they have had earthquakes..

Now, I realise that a map made from a sketch in 1839 would not be the most accurate around (see the HMS Erebus chart of 1839 on the wiki page), but I note that there appeared to be rather more landmass back then..

If the islands disappear then does that mean the national boundary is no longer viable - Brazil loses it's claim to that patch of what would just be ocean? :unsure:

 

Mark Robinson

Part-time Ferroequinologist

Author of FLIGHT: A near-future short story (ebook available on amazon)

I made the baby cry - A2A Simulations L-049 Constellation

Sky Simulations MD-11 V2.2 Pilot. The best "lite" MD-11 money can buy (well, it's not freeware!)

Yes the oceans rise but where I live in New Zealand we are also still rising out of the ocean, our last earthquake was quite significant you can see here:
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/89206/powerful-earthquake-exposes-new-land-near-kaikoura#:~:text=On November 13%2C 2016%2C a,5.5 meters (18 feet).

The largest land rise over the past 100 years was in Napier in 1931 when 40 km² of sea-bed became dry land, this is now the location where they built Napier Airport, when you go there it is amazing to think such a large mass of land rose out of the ocean over a short period of a minute or two
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1931_Hawke's_Bay_earthquake

Matthew Kane

I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me 

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@Matthew Kane fascinating stuff! :cool:

Mark Robinson

Part-time Ferroequinologist

Author of FLIGHT: A near-future short story (ebook available on amazon)

I made the baby cry - A2A Simulations L-049 Constellation

Sky Simulations MD-11 V2.2 Pilot. The best "lite" MD-11 money can buy (well, it's not freeware!)

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