23 minutes ago, CJ1045 said:

So many posts and so many people missing where the OP has missed a crucial step:

What hasn't been done is to use the Navigraph Beta data loader for MSFS!!!

What the OP has done is to use the latest Navigraph data in Simbrief then load the flight plan into MSFS which is still using the Navblue data.

What the OP needs to down is to download the Navigraph MSFS Beta data loader for MSFS 2020 from the Navigraph forum and then use that to load the Navigraph data into MSFS. The data set in Simbrief/Navigraph will then be in complete sync with the data in MSFS.

CJ

No. I thought I made it clear I’m loading the Navigraph nav data into MSFS. That’s what’s causing me issues here. 

1 minute ago, Virtual-Chris said:

No. I thought I made it clear I’m loading the Navigraph nav data into MSFS. That’s what’s causing me issues here. 

Are you using the Beta Navigraph loader to do that so you get the Navigraph folder in your Community Folders?

CJ

4 minutes ago, haklis said:

One issue that I reported and Navigraph acknowledged was a known issue is:  that a fix which is the beginning of an approach cannot be searched up during flight when issued a direct by atc. However the same fix pops up in the flightplan when loading the approach containing the fix from the proc page. 

...if I remembered correctly that is. 

Thats consistent with what I’m finding. I get approach assignments from ATC that can not be found in the aircrafts nav system. 

In my case, Navigraph nav data causes more problems than it solved right now. I will continue my subscription for the charts. But I won’t be loading the nav data. 

And for me, the built in flight planner (when augmented by the charts to choose a SID) is perfectly fine for my flight planning needs. 
 

 

2 minutes ago, CJ1045 said:

Are you using the Beta Navigraph loader to do that so you get the Navigraph folder in your Community Folders?

CJ

Yes. Not sure how else you could do it. 

9 hours ago, Virtual-Chris said:

Are you just flying the approach you plan? Or getting one assigned from ATC enroute?

BTW, I haven’t had problems with the ATC stepping me down, although sometimes I get the odd mid approach instruction to climb to FL150 which I have to ignore. It’s certainly not perfect, but for my needs of assigning me an approach when I get into the airspace, it works reasonably well. 

 

Flying the approach in my flight plan.  I have also had FS2020 ATC give me a lower altitude and then have me climb again and then down again.  😘  The FS2020 ATC is definitely better then FSX or P3D ATC (Pretty much the same ATC I believe.).

Bill

Edit- I am also using Navigraph Beta for FS2020.  P2ATC usually gives me vectors to the approach.  I will try a flight without the approach in my flight plan and see what I get.

Edited November 19, 20205 yr by Bill Griffith

On 11/19/2020 at 9:10 AM, eslader said:

I don't know that I'd say not to get Navigraph. I'd be more likely to say don't use default ATC.  I think P2ATC is compatible with MSFS, and it's a lot better.

Your biggest problem is going to be scenery. Navigraph might be able to update the FMS in whatever plane you're flying, but it can't fix missing airports. I did a flight from Russia over the polar circle and down to the continental US, just to see how the sim would handle it. I planned a fuel stop at a regional airport in Alaska, which has a nice long runway for the jet I was flying.

Trouble was, I got there and while the navigation fixes were present in MSFS, the airport was not, so I didn't get to land. But you're going to run into that problem whether you use Navigraph or not.

 

 

Thanks for the suggestion!

On 11/19/2020 at 3:06 AM, Virtual-Chris said:

The bottom assignment is what I get with Navigraph nav data.  I don't know what this is. It's not in the MCDU. I can't find it in the charts. And I don't understand it.  It seems out in left field. It would be great if someone more savvy with charts could explain that.

 

This ARC DME approach is in the  "Conventional Initial Approach Rwy 14R" (11-0C) chart. Guess you didn't see that chart.

3 hours ago, Alvega said:

 

This ARC DME approach is in the  "Conventional Initial Approach Rwy 14R" (11-0C) chart. Guess you didn't see that chart.

Thanks. I see that now. What an obscure choice. Im still not sure that approach can be programmed into the MCDU. 

The ATC is fragile enough. Adding more choice with the Navigraph data doesn’t seem to help. 😉