He is the situationI have an amazing new computer that is producing really really low frame rates with fsx. I have followed the advice of others and have experimented with system tweaks including turning off all autogen, scenery, and AI.( stock aircraft) My frame rates using a minimized sliders are only 6-15 fps. My computer has dual ati1950 cards, raptor drives , 4gb of mem. Any ideas what might be holding up the processing.??On the smae machine running 5/6 addons in fs9.1 im seeing fps of 40-50. and thats with everything on full with a pmdg 747.wonderfully smooth.???? There must be some key inhibitor in fsxThoughts? Peter

Look around the board for help.Try Tweaks put in new AI remove your old AI back it up. Use your sliders try not to max everything out just because you have a new high powered computer. I know it must be tempting but any flight sim maxed out is taxing on a computer.After that you should do fine with FSX.

>Look around the board for help.Try Tweaks put in new AI>remove your old AI back it up. Use your sliders try not to max>everything out just because you have a new high powered>computer. I know it must be tempting but any flight sim maxed>out is taxing on a computer.>>After that you should do fine with FSX.Thanks for the replyI actually tried to run with everything on minimum, and the fps were still 5-6 fps. This baffles the mind.. How is that possible. I did not understand the comment you included on the AI.Seems strange that the very best I can get out of fsx is 14fps even with everything at min's. thank you Peter

You don't name the processor or the Mobo, but my advice would be take 2 gig of that RAM out.Also this is a Hardware question. Your topic will get moved soon, but you should post all such questions in the right forum, or else it leads to idiots having hissy fits because they think threads are being locked for `censorship` purposes. :)Allcott

We will need to know more about your computer specs. 14 fps with it on minimum sounds like a major problem some where that must be hardware not software related.A lot of people think FSX may be hindred on multi-core cpus. It maybe not reading the power of this cpus right even when they just use one core. Some posters have their Multi-core Cpus cranked up over 3ghz and still hitting a stone wall for some reason. Its something that ACES or Micro-soft is looking into from some of the post they have made.At 3ghz they should have no problems getting 30FPS almost anywhere with setting almost maxed excpet autogen, and traffic

>We will need to know more about your computer specs. 14 fps>with it on minimum sounds like a major problem some where that>must be hardware not software related.>>A lot of people think FSX may be hindred on multi-core cpus.>It maybe not reading the power of this cpus right even when>they just use one core. Some posters have their Multi-core>Cpus cranked up over 3ghz and still hitting a stone wall for>some reason. Its something that ACES or Micro-soft is looking>into from some of the post they have made.>>At 3ghz they should have no problems getting 30FPS almost>anywhere with setting almost maxed excpet autogen, and>trafficI will post the specs in a little while and allcot, I did not know exactly where to post, I am not sure this is only a harware issue. God knows Im not looking to cause anyone a hissy fit!! LolPeter

>>We will need to know more about your computer specs. 14 fps>>with it on minimum sounds like a major problem some where>that>>must be hardware not software related.>>>>A lot of people think FSX may be hindred on multi-core cpus.>>It maybe not reading the power of this cpus right even when>>they just use one core. Some posters have their Multi-core>>Cpus cranked up over 3ghz and still hitting a stone wall for>>some reason. Its something that ACES or Micro-soft is>looking>>into from some of the post they have made.>>>>At 3ghz they should have no problems getting 30FPS almost>>anywhere with setting almost maxed excpet autogen, and>>traffic>>>>>>I will post the specs in a little while and allcot, I did not>know exactly where to post, I am not sure this is only a>harware issue. God knows Im not looking to cause anyone a>hissy fit!! Lol>>Peterhere are the specs , cant get more than 6-10 fps... peterSpecsOperating System System ModelWindows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600) USTEK COMPUTER INC P5W DH DeluxeProcessor a Main Circuit Board b2.40 gigahertz Intel Core 2 Duo64 kilobyte primary memory cache4096 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5W DH Deluxe Rev 1.xxBus Clock: 266 megahertzBIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 1407 09/26/2006Drives Memory Modules c,d800.16 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity756.52 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free SpacePIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D [CD-ROM drive]3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device [Hard drive] (123 MB) -- drive 2Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 3ST3500630AS [Hard drive] (500.11 GB) -- drive 1Volume0 [Hard drive] (300.07 GB) -- drive 0 2048 Megabytes Installed MemorySlot 'DIMM0' has 1024 MB (serial number SerNum0)Slot 'DIMM1' has 1024 MBSlot 'DIMM2' has 1024 MBSlot 'DIMM3' has 1024 MB Local Drive Volumes c: (NTFS on drive 0) 300.06 GB 256.97 GB freed: (NTFS on drive 1) 500.11 GB 499.56 GB free Network Drives None detected Standard floppy disk controllerIntel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DFPrimary IDE Channel [Controller]Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] Radeon X1900 Series [Display adapter]Radeon X1900 Series Secondary [Display adapter]Radeon X1950 CrossFire Edition [Display adapter]Radeon X1950 CrossFire Edition Secondary [Display adapter]ViewSonic VP2030 SERIES [Monitor] (20.2"vis, s/n PSB060302119, January 2006) (2x)ViewSonic VX924 [Monitor] (19.1"vis, s/n PS3060321116, January 2006)Bus Adapters MultimediaIntel® 82801GR/GH SATA RAID ControllerJMicron JMB36X ControllerIntel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C8Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C9Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CAIntel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CBIntel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 27CC Realtek High Definition AudioUSB Audio DeviceCommunications Other Devices 1394 Net AdapterMarvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller IP Address: Physical Address: Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller #2 Auto IP Address: Gateway: Dhcp Server: 3:44:0F:69RAS Async AdapterRealtek RTL8187 Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps USB 2.0 Network Adapter primary IP Address: Physical Address: Networking Dns Servers: Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host ControllerHID UPS BatteryAmerican Power Conversion USB UPSLogitech WingMan Force 3D USBLogitech WingMan Force 3D USB (HID)Creative WebCam Live! #3PS/2 KeyboardLogitech-compatible Mouse PS/2Generic USB Hub (2x)Unknown DeviceUSB Composite DeviceUSB Mass Storage DeviceUSB Printing SupportUSB Root Hub (5x)>

Think of the kiddies who wanna have Fsx for Chistmas, with their reasonable P4, 3.0 Ghz... spoke to some on the FS weekend lately in the Netherlands.. how many will be dissapointed during those dark days, that even YOU with such a monster PC will not get decend fps.JohanA LITTLE LESS CONVERSATION, AND A LITTLE MORE ACTION PLEASE.."The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one - but still they come!"Ulla!

Issn;t the frontside bus of 266 Very Low?/

>>I will post the specs in a little while and allcot, I did>not>>know exactly where to post, I am not sure this is only a>>harware issue. God knows Im not looking to cause anyone a>>hissy fit!! Lol>>>>Peter>>>here are the specs , cant get more than 6-10 fps... peter>Specs>>Operating System System Model>Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600) USTEK>COMPUTER INC P5W DH Deluxe>Processor a Main Circuit Board b>2.40 gigahertz Intel Core 2 Duo>64 kilobyte primary memory cache>4096 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: ASUSTeK>Computer INC. P5W DH Deluxe Rev 1.xx>Bus Clock: 266 megahertz>BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 1407 09/26/2006>Drives Memory Modules c,d>800.16 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity>756.52 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space>>PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D [CD-ROM drive]>3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]>>Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device [Hard drive] (123 MB) -->drive 2>Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 3>ST3500630AS [Hard drive] (500.11 GB) -- drive 1>Volume0 [Hard drive] (300.07 GB) -- drive 0 2048 Megabytes>Installed Memory>>Slot 'DIMM0' has 1024 MB (serial number SerNum0)>Slot 'DIMM1' has 1024 MB>Slot 'DIMM2' has 1024 MB>Slot 'DIMM3' has 1024 MB> Local Drive Volumes> > >c: (NTFS on drive 0) 300.06 GB 256.97 GB free>d: (NTFS on drive 1) 500.11 GB 499.56 GB free> Network Drives> None detected>>>> >>Standard floppy disk controller>Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers ->27DF>Primary IDE Channel [Controller]>Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] Radeon X1900 Series>[Display adapter]>Radeon X1900 Series Secondary [Display adapter]>Radeon X1950 CrossFire Edition [Display adapter]>Radeon X1950 CrossFire Edition Secondary [Display adapter]>ViewSonic VP2030 SERIES [Monitor] (20.2"vis, s/n PSB060302119,>January 2006) (2x)>ViewSonic VX924 [Monitor] (19.1"vis, s/n PS3060321116, January>2006)>Bus Adapters Multimedia>Intel® 82801GR/GH SATA RAID Controller>JMicron JMB36X Controller>Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller ->27C8>Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller ->27C9>Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller ->27CA>Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller ->27CB>Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller ->27CC Realtek High Definition Audio>USB Audio Device>Communications Other Devices> >1394 Net Adapter>Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller> IP Address: > Physical Address: >Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller #2> Auto IP Address: > Gateway: > Dhcp Server: 3:44:0F:69>RAS Async Adapter>Realtek RTL8187 Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps USB 2.0 Network>Adapter> primary IP Address: > Physical Address: >Networking Dns Servers: >> Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host>Controller>HID UPS Battery>American Power Conversion USB UPS>Logitech WingMan Force 3D USB>Logitech WingMan Force 3D USB (HID)>Creative WebCam Live! #3>PS/2 Keyboard>Logitech-compatible Mouse PS/2>Generic USB Hub (2x)>Unknown Device>USB Composite Device>USB Mass Storage Device>USB Printing Support>USB Root Hub (5x)>>>I'm pretty sure I read where ATI crossfire had a problem with both vid cards fighting each other, they both think they are the primary card. I also think I read where ATI has a driver patch to correct this.You may want to check on ATI's site.4 Gigs of RAM is OK, but, DIM loading can be a problem with many mobo's and or PSU's. In many dual channel systems 4 1 GB modules are much slower than 2x2GB modules. Your allway's better off using 2X2048 of the same version. 4 modules are slower and actually slow the system down.Good Luck

>>>I will post the specs in a little while and allcot, I did>>not>>>know exactly where to post, I am not sure this is only a>>>harware issue. God knows Im not looking to cause anyone a>>>hissy fit!! Lol>>>>>>Peter>>>>>>here are the specs , cant get more than 6-10 fps... peter>>Specs>>>>Operating System System Model>>Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600) > USTEK>>COMPUTER INC P5W DH Deluxe>>Processor a Main Circuit Board b>>2.40 gigahertz Intel Core 2 Duo>>64 kilobyte primary memory cache>>4096 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: ASUSTeK>>Computer INC. P5W DH Deluxe Rev 1.xx>>Bus Clock: 266 megahertz>>BIOS: American Megatrends Inc./26/2006>>Drives Memory Modules c,d>>800.16 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity>>756.52 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space>>>>PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D [CD-ROM drive]>>3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]>>>>Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device [Hard drive] (123 MB) -->>drive 2>>Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 3>>ST3500630AS [Hard drive] (500.11 GB) -- drive 1>>Volume0 [Hard drive] (300.07 GB) -- drive 0 2048>Megabytes>>Installed Memory>>>>Slot 'DIMM0' has 1024 MB (serial number SerNum0)>>Slot 'DIMM1' has 1024 MB>>Slot 'DIMM2' has 1024 MB>>Slot 'DIMM3' has 1024 MB>> Local Drive Volumes>> >> >>c: (NTFS on drive 0) 300.06 GB 256.97 GB free>>d: (NTFS on drive 1) 500.11 GB 499.56 GB free>> Network Drives>> None detected>>>>>>>> >>>>Standard floppy disk controller>>Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers>->>27DF>>Primary IDE Channel [Controller]>>Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] Radeon X1900 Series>>[Display adapter]>>Radeon X1900 Series Secondary [Display adapter]>>Radeon X1950 CrossFire Edition [Display adapter]>>Radeon X1950 CrossFire Edition Secondary [Display adapter]>>ViewSonic VP2030 SERIES [Monitor] (20.2"vis, s/n>PSB060302119,>>January 2006) (2x)>>ViewSonic VX924 [Monitor] (19.1"vis, s/n PS3060321116,>January>>2006)>>Bus Adapters Multimedia>>Intel® 82801GR/GH SATA RAID Controller>>JMicron JMB36X Controller>>Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller>->>27C8>>Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller>->>27C9>>Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller>->>27CA>>Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller>->>27CB>>Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller>->>27CC Realtek High Definition Audio>>USB Audio Device>>Communications Other Devices>> >>1394 Net Adapter>>Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller>> IP Address: >> Physical Address: >>Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller #2>> Auto IP Address: >> Gateway: >> Dhcp Server: 3:44:0F:69>>RAS Async Adapter>>Realtek RTL8187 Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps USB 2.0 Network>>Adapter>> primary IP Address: >> Physical Address: >>Networking Dns Servers: >>>> Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host>>Controller>>HID UPS Battery>>American Power Conversion USB UPS>>Logitech WingMan Force 3D USB>>Logitech WingMan Force 3D USB (HID)>>Creative WebCam Live! #3>>PS/2 Keyboard>>Logitech-compatible Mouse PS/2>>Generic USB Hub (2x)>>Unknown Device>>USB Composite Device>>USB Mass Storage Device>>USB Printing Support>>USB Root Hub (5x)>>>>>>I'm pretty sure I read where ATI crossfire had a problem with>both vid cards fighting each other, they both think they are>the primary card. I also think I read where ATI has a driver>patch to correct this.>You may want to check on ATI's site.>4 Gigs of RAM is OK, but, DIM loading can be a problem with>many mobo's and or PSU's. In many dual channel systems 4 1 GB>modules are much slower than 2x2GB modules. Your allway's>better off using 2X2048 of the same version. 4 modules are>slower and actually slow the system down.>>Good Luck> Actually I am not running crossfire for fsx , because a little know fact is that in crossfire mode, you can only use one monitor,! But with two cards running you can get great grpahics on two cards,It is great . seems a waste but I like an extended monitor conifg in fs.Now here is the issue, I dont think the problem is the hardware, becuase when I do run fs9.1 fully loaded I can see fps of 50-80 on this same computer, just differnet software and fsx gives me 6-15 with default settings.Now I did try fsx with the added line in the cfg file of;Fiber_Frame_Time_fraction=.33 and fps jumped for the smae config to 25Lastly on the comment of the speed of the front side bus, Is it something that is typically user changeable??BTW the motherboard is an Asus P5W DH Deluxe..Thanks for all of the help so farPeter

Is that changeable Peter

The 266MHz FSB is quad pumped within the CPU to give 1066MHz actual FSB. This is standard for a Core 2 Duo.Gary

Just because you have a monster PC doesn't automatically mean great framerates. The more I read the more I see that the folks with the core duos seem to be having the most problems. Craig

Peter:In what resolution are you tying to run FSX? Have you updated to the latest ATI drivers? What are your X1950XTX core and mem speeds?