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Installed Vista No problems what so ever. Haven't gotten one error message or issue regarding hardware, software , programs. I don't see 5000 process' running and memory usage looks good if not better then XP. Finally got my 4 gigs of ram to show up. Haven't had any adverse affects from running games. They run the same as before. Very impressed with the layout and fluid functionality of everything. AM completely satisified for once and never thought I'd be saying that. I am sick of all the whiners complaining about vista from what they read someone else wrote when they have never even tried it. My experience with vista is 100% satisfactory and kudos to microsoft. HP M7470NAMD 64 X2 4200+4 gigs PC3200 DDR2 ATI X1900 GTXPartridge in a pear tree

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"Games run the same as before."Thanks, the pointlessness of Vista is beginning to dawn.Allcott

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The distribution and intent of Vista was not to increase game performance. To increase support, security and fluidity and ease of use. Along with other things also. Don't want to forget anything on purpose cause I might get bashed. Besides if you don't like change every 5 years its time to get out of the house.

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I am sick of all the whiners complaining about vista...Then why are you here (or anywhere else on the Net)? If you're sick shut down the computer, take a couple aspirin, and get to bed.Or you could do the mature thing and simply not read threads about Vista, FS, or anything else that might make you sick.If you're happy with Vista, then we're happy for you. So the only relevant question is why can't you be happy with anyone who doesn't agree with you?Get well soon,

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"Thanks, the pointlessness of Vista is beginning to dawn."That is, if you only use your pc for gaming. With that, I mean current, today games.There are a lot of improvements under the hood, that are not game related.Once I made the mistake of not going with the best, and bought a 486DX4 16 bit instead one of the then new 32 bit processors.Current games ran better on the 486DX4 100Mhz pc (where are the days).But soon, new stuff came out that used the new improved 32 bit architecture, and the only thing I could do, was install and enjoy the slideshow.I am afraid we will see this happening all over, and soon. Right now, I can read remarks like "eat this, FSX" or "FS9 is there to stay" all over the place. Only thing I can say, let's wait for the DirectX 10 patch (not SP1). Maybe (probably) it will not improve the FPS issue, but it sure will improve the visuals, without dragging the game to a halt.And for those that are complaining about : DX 10 was developed on windowsXP, Microsoft should be able to release it on XP, may I ask you to realize, Microsoft owns Windows. I am sure DX10 was developed on a highly adapted version of XP, let's call it a hybrid between XP and Vista. Otherwise I am sure we would have seen DX10 leaked for XP a long time ago. Do not forgot the hacker community has had acces to the RTM too.Also the transfer from XP to Vista will go faster then most of us believe, and there are two reasons : all new PCs come with Vista installed, and many users with fairly new PCs (let's say less then 2 years old) are considering upgrading. And everyone knows you need a **very** recent PC to play some of the new games on the market today. FS X is not an exeption in that matter.So it does make sense for game developers to program against DX 10, and we will have to follow, liking it or not, because in 2 years from now, more then 75% of the gaming pcs will run Vista and DX 10 (or maybe even DX 11).For your information, I plan to install the 64bits version soon, when the drivers get a bit more stable.just my 2 cents, Jan

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Thanks Jan and we agree. "Lets wait for the DirectX 10 patch"I can certainly agree that not buying Vista now is a very good idea. After the DX10 patch things may have changed. after all, a year is a very long time in computing.Allcott

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>"Games run the same as before.">>Thanks, the pointlessness of Vista is beginning to dawn.>>AllcottHehehe.

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Hey Soarpics, Take some aspirin? Sounds like you have a anger mgt issues. All I am stating is that people are making judgements and ASSUMPTIONS that vista sucks because of what they read and we all know that ASSUMPTIONS are the mother of all F ups. It seems to me that if I express my opinion you are ready to send me to the gallows so maybe you my friend should take some zanax , get some shock thereapy go to bed and wake up and start over.

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Funny fellow.Actually you didn't come here to "express an opinion", you came here to bash. Proof of such is in your first post when you wrote, I am sick of all the whiners complainingYour use of the term "whiners" is derogatory to anyone who doesn't embrace your opinions (thus showing your lack of maturity). In the future try to offer something that would be of actual use to your fellow simmers and computer users... like a concise and in depth report of your posistive experience without denegrating anyone.Hopefully a moderator will soon happen along to lock your useless flaming post... maybe even before your bedtime.

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Posts should incite **provocative** dialog, and nothing else.Provocative only in that a post stimulates further thought and expression within a thread---- in a non-aggressive format.You go, Geofa!Cheers!Mitch R.

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Well, lately I have read a lot of posts of people who did not speak from experience, but from what they have read left and right on the net.If that is all what those people do, repeat others opinions, making unfunded conclusions and even force them on other people, then I agree with the original poster.It looks if someone is having positive experiences, and wants to share them, he is shot down immediately lately.with all due respect, Jan

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Nice to see you back Mitch! As a famous philosopher once said "if you have to raise your voice to make a point maybe you don't have much of one".In any case-I haven't made up my mind on this issue and am enjoying seeing imformative posts on either side. As most things in life-the truth is probably somewhere in the middle....http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

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Hi Jan,It looks if someone is having positive experiences, and wants to share them, he is shot down immediately lately.We've seen this from both sides of the subject. Call it human nature... folks are often passionate about their experiences. Be that as it may, the OP offered little tangible info (for example, he did not stipulate which version of Vista he installed .. that will be important to each and every PC user based upon their systems and applications path).In the end such derogatory remarks as the OP made in his opening post serve no good purpose to any worthwhile dialog. Which is a reason why his thread has run the course it has. It started out badly and will end the same way.In the meantime many here still look forward to reading about all experiences with the new OS. Good and bad alike can serve to benefit the community if presented in a proper light.Regards,

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like jh71 said soaringpics, All I have read for the most part is bashing of vista by people that haven't even tried it. I'm not trying to bash here as my post title states anyone else? I can't believe that microsoft working for 5 years hasn't had one good compliment on vista by the flight sim community. I apologize soaring it is out of character for me to come at people like that but I found your initial response a bit harsh for the comment and opinion that I made. Anyways I am enjoying vista and have had no problems or issues and I did the upgrade without a fresh install which I agree is a no no but everything worked flawlessly.

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Hey Geofa!A question---how can a guy who is living the dream (yourself, owning a Baron 58) have time to be a moderator?!?!?!?!?If I had a Baron...there would be too little time, and way too much sky to cover...cash in the bank, the only limiter...(smile).BTW, I still remember (years back) your Bonanza run out West. I still see those images in my mind you and your wife shot.You know...they don't grow old...there would be lots of persons here that might thoroughly enjoy those series of shots from your V-tail. :)I know I could use a refresher...A thought,Mitch

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Anyways I am enjoying vistaCool! So if you could offer more info on your install no doubt many here would find such info useful.Specifically:Which version of Vista.Which version(s) of FS, and some of the tweaks you've used (please don't list all tweaks... that would take up far too much of your time). Just give us some of the relevant info.Is the system you've installed Vista on only for simming, or do you use the system for gaming and productivity?Many would be curious to know (based upon which version of Vista you're running) just how many services are running and what the memory useage is at desktop as well as while simming.No doubt these questions could take some time for you to reply, but many here would appreciate any and all info you could supply.Thanks

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Hi AllI had my Tech install Vista Ultimate and when booting up FSX found that I could not hear the ATC Chatter.I posted a thread in this forum looking for an answer, and I received some constructive replys.I did however receive several replys indicating that this is why they would not install vista and stick with XP.Well guess what?The Tech forgot to plug in one of the audio jacks for my monitor speaker and this is why I was not receiving the ATC chatter.I have found no problems with Vista or loss of FPS rate.One other improvement, I do not get any of those CTD or loss of instrument guages during low visibility.I have no problems with Vista and glad I had it installed.Kenny G.Specs.Duo CoreNvida 79502Gigs Ram

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>Well, lately I have read a lot of posts of people who did not>speak from experience, but from what they have read left and>right on the net.>If that is all what those people do, repeat others opinions,>making unfunded conclusions and even force them on other>people, then I agree with the original poster.>It looks if someone is having positive experiences, and wants>to share them, he is shot down immediately lately.>with all due respect, JanI must agree with this post. Personally I have Vista too, and I have had ZERO problems with it. Speeds are the same (no, an new OS doesn't increase speeds, DirectX 10 and the necessary hardware upgrades do that)And people on the forums are gettings much too worked up over the DRM issue. It is EXTREMELY unlikely that Microsoft has any sinister plans... I mean, get realistic guys. Right now I'm enjoying the very nice GUI and much improved boot times over XP.

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You are right-I have little time-getting to the age where I want a lot more!I've done the western trip now 4 times-all an adventure-and the north to south trip about 8-shows how far we go back.I am hoping at some point a mission type experience with real world flights and adventures/misadventures-now if I only had a little more time to learn how... lol.http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

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You went West FOUR TIMES?!??OK, it will then be a crap-shoot on which one I am thinking about. You did the West in the Bonanza...four times?!?!?It must have been the first..wait...you were releasing pictures as an A/B/ comparison to real-life aviation, and the FS 2000 or 2004 version of a landmark/landscape. You posted the real-life shot you or your wife took, and then the FS2000? FS2004? screen grab in the same post. It was very entertaining and interesting seeing the flight simulator's take on things...Does that ring a bell on which trip, Geofa? There were a lot of mountain range up 'n over pics.Mitch

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Yes-that was the first trip in the Debonair. I made the trip two more times in the deb(the 2nd time the trip from #### with a landing gear malfuction and a week stop in Evanston,Wy for repairs-then an alternator problem in Idaho Falls, weather in Miles City Montana)-the third time with a dog to San Diego-San Jose to drop the dog of fto my son in law. Then when time building in the Baron did it again-quite a scenic tour with stops in Jackson Hole and a tour of the Cirrus factory in Duluth (that one I have videos of).Got to be a way to fix these real life adventures into fsx! :-)http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

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You know what, Geofa...you had some exciting and frustrating moments, no doubt, BUT...BUT...while I fly a computer in the Den, you were out there doing the real 'thang......I should have your problems, ROTFLMBO.God Bless!I hope to, one day...after retirement. I'm half-way there...for I have a wonderful gal in my life that says as long as I supply barf bags and a chemical toilet for the back seat...we're good to go!Yehaaaaaaaaaaaw!She's hinting that my retirement party might have a 'get your PPL/IFR/Night Rating gift' within the card so I can eventually fly her all around Kentucky looking for another horse to add to the four we already own...LOL! BTW, if you like horses--we have a Belgian, a Thoroughbred, a Quarter Horse, and a Warm Blood. They're our 'kids'...Ok...back onto the thread's topic...Mitch

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