9 minutes ago, Paul J said:

That would be the - or at least "a" direction I would go in. Perhaps re-install the X-Camera - then download Revo and do an un-install of that program - and see if that fixes it.

I wrote to Natural Point about the scale difference.   I will follow your suggestion.   

Late here on Guam.   Please stay with me on this issue.   Really appreciate any and all suggestions.

7 minutes ago, Paul J said:

I also have a similar setup, but with a 43" LG straight monitor @3840x2160, sitting 32" away.
Have you, or can you substitute  the TV for a regular monitor?

 

Thanks.   I will try that tomorrow.   I have a 24" BenQ monitor that is not in use.

👍

Ok.. G'night!

Edited January 8, 20224 yr by Paul J

Sorry that I have not pursued helping you with this. Unfortunately I’m down with COVID.  PaulJ has some good ideas.  I also think it has to do with screen resolution or dpi. The great thing about Xplane is how easy it is to install, uninstall, reinstall.  You can make a separate installation of Xplane so that it is a default setup. Then add in TrackIR and see what you got. If it’s good, add in XCamera. I’ve never had any compatibility issue between those two programs. In fact, XCamera has a click box for using TrackIR.  In other words, start over with another installation and migrate your addons over to the new installation. 

It was Xcamera that made Trakir so easy to use. Had no issues in 2 years or so

Well that's good to know gentlemen. Thank you. I had a shot with XP many many years ago, but have been a solid FSX'er since then, but here, now - I'm very much a 'newbie' and have a lot more to learn.  . . . .especially about Ortho. . . . but that's another story . . .😎

Rm has a concurrent topic going on the MSFS forum too, 

but I'm not sure of a successful outcome from either forum. I agree with you, Randall, dpi/resolution - and I think testing with that 23"BQ PC monitor is important, in that it will take the "TV having a "problem" " out of the equation.We know how PC's and PC games work with our regular monitors - but not so with televisions. In this case, too - it's quite possibly the result of some interaction between TIR and his experimenting with GrassMonkey - which I've never heard of.  
 

I hope that the "recurrent" post does not cause difficulty with the Moderators.   If so, I request them to take appropriate action to close the MSFS thread and leave the X-Plane thread open.

Been busy this morning.   It is Monday here on Guam.   

Regarding GrassMonkey's failed installation, I did not exaggerate my choice of words.   That installation caused my yoke to malfunction as well.   Would not move at all to bank left.  Just stuck in place at level.   Right Aileron was ok.  The onscreen view became unstable.   

Upon checking TrackIR, this motion blur arose for the first time.   No combination of proven profiles from Natural Point's staff / Speed / Smooth gets me back where I was.   

I have uninstalled X-Camera and reinstalled.   Removed any trace of GrassMonkey / Open Track.   Rebooted along the way.   

I would like to know the results of others who fly the C172 with REP and also with X-Camera and TrackIR.   It is dead easy to spot what I call Motion Blur.   Just press and hold Left Arrow key following by Right Arrow key while looking the panel.   Some bit of blur maybe normal.   But in the past whatever there was was not noticeable for me.  

RMM

24 minutes ago, Paul J said:

Well that's good to know gentlemen. Thank you. I had a shot with XP many many years ago, but have been a solid FSX'er since then, but here, now - I'm very much a 'newbie' and have a lot more to learn.  . . . .especially about Ortho. . . . but that's another story . . .😎

Rm has a concurrent topic going on the MSFS forum too, 

but I'm not sure of a successful outcome from either forum. I agree with you, Randall, dpi/resolution - and I think testing with that 23"BQ PC monitor is important, in that it will take the "TV having a "problem" " out of the equation.We know how PC's and PC games work with our regular monitors - but not so with televisions. In this case, too - it's quite possibly the result of some interaction between TIR and his experimenting with GrassMonkey - which I've never heard of.  
 

I remember you, PaulJ, from the FSX forums. I was on there frequently but moved to Xplane about 4 years ago.

I’ve never heard of GrassMonkey either.

6 hours ago, Randall said:

Sorry that I have not pursued helping you with this. Unfortunately I’m down with COVID.  PaulJ has some good ideas.  I also think it has to do with screen resolution or dpi. The great thing about Xplane is how easy it is to install, uninstall, reinstall.  You can make a separate installation of Xplane so that it is a default setup. Then add in TrackIR and see what you got. If it’s good, add in XCamera. I’ve never had any compatibility issue between those two programs. In fact, XCamera has a click box for using TrackIR.  In other words, start over with another installation and migrate your addons over to the new installation. 

I really appreciate everyone's input and effort.   Every suggestion gets my attention.   I also have a bit of delay.

The idea of a ground up re-installation is on my mind as well.    I don't have many Plug-Ins so I just need to review why I added them and confirm that they are still needed.   Fly with Lua / Data Ref Editor for example.   Not critical to X-Plane and TrackIR for sure.   

Randall... Hope you recover quickly.   I am home office and function by Zoom / Skype Screen Share / Email / Phone.   Limits my risk.  

Let me repeat this from the above reply to Paul:

I would like to know the results of others who fly the C172 with REP and also with X-Camera and TrackIR.   It is dead easy to spot what I call Motion Blur.   Just press and hold Left Arrow key followed by pressing and holding the Right Arrow key - go back and forth while looking the panel.   Some bit of blur maybe normal.   But in the past whatever there was was not noticeable for me.  

Thanks again!!

RMM

Edited January 10, 20224 yr by Rmmm

I got my first confirmation on the other thread in the MSFS forum that the blur I am getting is not normal.   That is the re-assurance that I really needed.    

I believe the blur on YouTube videos only results from the lower sampling rate of the video grab.    On YT the blur is minor.   Mine is extreme.   

RMM

12 hours ago, Rmmm said:

I really appreciate everyone's input and effort.   Every suggestion gets my attention.   I also have a bit of delay.

The idea of a ground up re-installation is on my mind as well.    I don't have many Plug-Ins so I just need to review why I added them and confirm that they are still needed.   Fly with Lua / Data Ref Editor for example.   Not critical to X-Plane and TrackIR for sure.   

Randall... Hope you recover quickly.   I am home office and function by Zoom / Skype Screen Share / Email / Phone.   Limits my risk.  

Let me repeat this from the above reply to Paul:

I would like to know the results of others who fly the C172 with REP and also with X-Camera and TrackIR.   It is dead easy to spot what I call Motion Blur.   Just press and hold Left Arrow key followed by pressing and holding the Right Arrow key - go back and forth while looking the panel.   Some bit of blur maybe normal.   But in the past whatever there was was not noticeable for me.  

Thanks again!!

RMM

That also sounds like it could be a problem with monitor syncing.  Do you have “Use Vsync” on?  Are you using a gsync/free sync monitor?  What are you settings in Nvidia panel?

Edited January 10, 20224 yr by Randall

Hmmm... Just watched the GrassMonkey vid. and was speculating that some part of that GM setup was still installed, and was interfering with the TIR output to the sim. Your TIR sensor, (mounted atop your monitor) is merely picking up the reflected IR, or a generated IR signal from a "puck" or the side-mounted TIR on your headband. In the GM case - it uses an IR camera, and, if that's still connected - even lying on the desk - it may still be active. The fact that it is happening with both sims would suggest something of this nature.  At least it's something I would need to eliminate, in the same manner as the TV vs PC monitor. It's like knowing for sure that all three(?) components of the GM software have been fully uninstalled with Revo - I don't know that.  The biggest issue is that none of us have your machine on our desks, so it's a bit like pulling hen's teeth. There are lots of places in a PC that will affect video in part of the way you describe.

Not giving up, and I know I'm not speaking for everyone else here - many of whom are very much knowledgeable in troubleshooting this kind of issue,  but having read all of the other suggestions on both forums, plus your input and responses, I reckon I'm clutching at straws, and don't know what else to suggest, other than someone doing a TeamViewer session with you..

Edited January 10, 20224 yr by Paul J

On 1/7/2022 at 10:36 AM, Rmmm said:

My sim experience has been destroyed.   

Do you have "System Restore" enabled by any chance?

If you do, you might want to try to revert back to a previous restore point.

8 hours ago, Randall said:

That also sounds like it could be a problem with monitor syncing.  Do you have “Use Vsync” on?  Are you using a gsync/free sync monitor?  What are you settings in Nvidia panel?

I have Vsync on in the Nvidia Control Panel and also in X-Plane.   Resolutions at "Recommended" 4k and Refresh at 60Hz.   

Natural Point tech support have my case now.   We will start with a complete reinstallation of X-Plane and TrackIR.    

15 minutes ago, CarlosF said:

Do you have "System Restore" enabled by any chance?

If you do, you might want to try to revert back to a previous restore point.

I tried that some days back.  No Change.   Not sure what the GrassMonkey did but I removed the OpenTrack Application and then deleted any remaining folders or files with OpenTrack reference.

The GrassMonkey device is miles away from my computer.   🥶

Proceeding with reinstallation later today.

RMM