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F.VIIa single engine: Climb 4000 and maintain

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Somebody at Asobo coded that Fokker's flight_model.cfg with too little power to climb off the runway...

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I just tried from an airport at sea level. It climbed well at 200 to 300 fpm at 50 kts. Flying this thing feels like flying an old bathtub, though. And it has breaks. Did the original one has wheel brakes?

 

Here is a lot of detailed information about the F VII3a:
Fokker F.VIIa | aircraft investigation | passenger aircraft

There is enough info there to improve the model.cfg, if we would have access to it😏

From there I gleaned that the single engine version had a climb speed of ~1000ft/min at sea level. That seems a lot better than the current performance of the aircraft in MSFS>

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Reading this thread, my interest in this product is quickly decreasing... 😄

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26 minutes ago, rka said:

Reading this thread, my interest in this product is quickly decreasing... 😄

I was looking forward to this since it is a classic from the early days of commercial aviation. Too bad, it seems most default aircraft are better than this one.
Although I expect Asobo to come with an update for some of the flight model issues I am afraid that most of the functionality like switches, doors etc. will remain "inoperative " forever.

It is a real shame because other developers might not consider their own (better) version of this aircraft now that it is already in the sim, for only15$.
That means we are probably stuck with this one being the only Fokker VII for the duration of MSFS. Since the aircraft is encrypted there is only so much the community can do to fix or enhance things.
 

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Display: Acer Predator x34 3440x1440 | Speakers: Logitech Z906 
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Another thing: There is a documentation of 4 PDF files in ....\Official\OneStore\microsoft-aircraft-fokker-vii\Resources\Documentation

Edited by crimplene

1 hour ago, orchestra_nl said:

Since the aircraft is encrypted there is only so much the community can do to fix or enhance things.

At the moment, yes. But! Jorg has indicated that they will be looking at opening certain aspects of encrypted aircraft for modification by the community. I believe flight dynamics is one of those.

...jim

 

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I have noticed that the Fokker F.VIIa/1m in MSFS has the incorrect engine, that's why it won't fly properly.

The Fokker F.VIIa/1m in the add-on package has the same engine as the F.VIIa/3m but only one.

This is incorrect and makes the aircraft vastly underpowered,
- in the sim the aircraft is powered by a single Wright J-4 Whirlbird radial engine of approx. 200hp
- whilst the real F.VIIa was powered by either a Bristol Jupiter or a Pratt & Whitney Wasp radial engine of 420hp.

Also in the simulator the propeller is a constant speed unit (although no propeller lever in the cockpit but you can adjust with CTRL F1-F4 keys). 
The real F.VIIa had a massive alumunium 2 blade fixed pitch propeller.

The result is that this aircraft is unable to take-off at it's maximum take-off weight of 3500kg.

I have filed a support ticket with https://flightsimulator.zendesk.com/

but it has instantly been flagged as 'solved' so I wouldn't hold my breath that they intend to fix it.

Very sad as the model looks stunning, and I was so looking forward to flying with it. Just another disappointment on the list with MSFS2020

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Rico van Dijk

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