we are talking gusting winds in a Typhoon, "It can certainly be done, though it was sporty."

good luck.

"Patey admirably owned the accident as his own bad judgment and both he and some media outlets filed it under the all-purpose descriptor we use when we don’t know what else to say: lessons learned. But what lesson, exactly? Don’t take off in a 30- to 40-knot crosswind? Thanks, but I already knew that and anyway, I’ve tried it at the lower number … just to see."

https://www.avweb.com/insider/draco-crash-what-lesson/

 

Edited September 19, 20223 yr by turbomax

1 hour ago, turbomax said:

we are talking gusting winds in a Typhoon, "It can certainly be done, though it was sporty."

good luck.

"Patey admirably owned the accident as his own bad judgment and both he and some media outlets filed it under the all-purpose descriptor we use when we don’t know what else to say: lessons learned. But what lesson, exactly? Don’t take off in a 30- to 40-knot crosswind? Thanks, but I already knew that and anyway, I’ve tried it at the lower number … just to see."

https://www.avweb.com/insider/draco-crash-what-lesson/

 

1.  I never said flying in 60+kt winds in a typhoon in a GA airplane was sporty or that I'd done it.  You shouldn't misquote. ;).  I said I'd done it in 40+kt, non-convective winds.

2.  Anyone who would try it in a taildragger, well... there's your result.  We were talking about training wheel airplanes. 

My point is that it's not fair to say it's unrealistic for the sim airplanes to be able to fly in 60kt winds.  I did say it would not be fun or smart, but not impossible, so in the sim it's entirely reasonable that it might work. 

agreed. But the question of the OP was "I find it too easy to land and takeoff in the sim as well as fly in bad weather. Is that really as per real life? " and I think that a plane in 63 kts turbulent air (like in todays typhoon in Japan) in MSFS behaves way too benign, not as wild and hair raising as it would be in real life. you couldn't even taxi and be able to take off.

Edited September 19, 20223 yr by turbomax

Fair nough.  I do need to see what those conditions feel like in the sim; guess I can't really have an opinion on "too easy" or not since I haven't tried it yet. 

In MFS it's unrealistic due to the still unfinished ground physics in good part...

To give you a comparation with X-Plane 12, which I tested in the default C172 and B737, under the very same adverseconditions due to the typhoon, it's not realistic either because the ground winds are reduced way bellow the actual reported values, like it used to happen after one of the MFS updates but can now be tuned.

 

the default C172 (G1000) in SU10 beta has it's ground winds values upped again, as I said the wind was pushing my aircraft around on the runway, though not blowing it over. Also only when the parking breaks were off, that doesn't seem realistic.

 

Speaking of storms though, there is the hurricane in the Caribbean right now. Spawned in the 172 at a small airport in eastern Dominican Republic, wind spun me 90 degrees when I turned off the parking break.

 

I spawned in the non-G1000 172, and the hurricane is blowing me around

Edited September 19, 20223 yr by Tuskin38

1 hour ago, Tuskin38 said:

Speaking of storms though, there is the hurricane in the Caribbean right now.

gusting winds 84 kts, trend: increasing. too bad we don't have historic weather yet in MSFS. I saved a few situations as FLT files in different aircraft hoping to be able to re-create these situations later again.

now we are talking: MDCY El Catey on take off 

Edited September 19, 20223 yr by turbomax

I still find the turbulence effects too weak but at least they're there now. I flew straight towards the Typhoon yesterday and the ride was smooth as silk (see vid). I tried it again today and I'm actually having to keep my hand on the yoke for a change so much more immersive 🙂

And today...

 

Edited September 19, 20223 yr by TrafficPilot

12 minutes ago, TrafficPilot said:

I flew straight towards the Typhoon yesterday and the ride was smooth as silk (see vid).

that would have ripped the plane into pieces. but then again, it is a flight simulator and no normal pilot would ever dare to even get near, let alone fly into the eye of the storm. obviously the current weather model doesn't have that data yet. at least my C152 taxied backwards on the ground in MCDY, a first step in the wrong direction. 😀

12 minutes ago, turbomax said:

that would have ripped the plane into pieces. but then again, it is a flight simulator and no normal pilot would ever dare to even get near, let alone fly into the eye of the storm. obviously the current weather model doesn't have that data yet. at least my C152 taxied backwards on the ground in MCDY, a first step in the wrong direction. 😀

I deliberately didn't include any video of my take-off. The poor little 152 was all over the place!

Edited September 19, 20223 yr by TrafficPilot

The default 172 variants have better ground wind modelling right now. Asobo seems to use them as their test beds. I was flipping and flopping all over the runway in the 172, but the 152 just sat there.

Edited September 19, 20223 yr by Tuskin38

2 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

The default 172 variants have better ground wind modelling right now. Asobo seems to use them as their test beds. I was flipping and flopping all over the runway in the 172, but the 152 just sat there.

I'm flying the freeware JP Logistics 152 (in second vid above). It's very close to the real thing - certainly more realistic than the default 152 I find. I believe it also has the latest CFD and prop mods.

Edited September 19, 20223 yr by TrafficPilot

Yeah, it all depends on how the aircraft is set up.

Edited September 19, 20223 yr by Tuskin38

21 hours ago, turbomax said:

this is what you'd get if you're lucky (RJOS Tokushima, real world weather). You know what's going on when your GPS shows ground speed of 50 kts, and your indicated airspeed is showing 95 kts:

Silly question; how do you get damage to show on the aircraft like that?

3 minutes ago, pobee10 said:

Silly question; how do you get damage to show on the aircraft like that?

Looks like X Plane 12?