We don't need ground textures just objects

[UKflyer 630]

I don't think we need LR to reinvent the wheel with ground textures as these can be generated from ortho4xp, we just need realistically placed objects to make XP12 great. Obviously this cannot be resolved with osm data alone so LR probably need some AI tool to create this. Does anyone have any idea how this could be achieved to help them out?? 😉

 

[Bjoern 1,157]

1. Steal a billion Dollars.
2. Buy the biggest computer you can find.
3. License a good source for satellite photos.
4. Hire two hundred nerds and tell them to rack their brains to come up with algorithms and programs that predictably, consistently and accurately extracts object footprint data from satellite photos and color corrects said satellite photos.
5. Hire a thousand digital artists to create objects with acceptable visual variety that will be placed on said footprint data.
6. Upload the finished scenery to servers and start streaming it to users.

Congratulations, you've invented MSFS2020.

[MrBitstFlyer 3,875]

1 hour ago, UKflyer said:

we just need realistically placed objects to make XP12 great. Obviously this cannot be resolved with osm data alone so LR probably need some AI tool to create this. Does anyone have any idea how this could be achieved to help them out??

It could be called SimHeaven X-World.

[UKflyer 630]

41 minutes ago, Bjoern said:

1. Steal a billion Dollars.
2. Buy the biggest computer you can find.
3. License a good source for satellite photos.
4. Hire two hundred nerds and tell them to rack their brains to come up with algorithms and programs that predictably, consistently and accurately extracts object footprint data from satellite photos and color corrects said satellite photos.
5. Hire a thousand digital artists to create objects with acceptable visual variety that will be placed on said footprint data.
6. Upload the finished scenery to servers and start streaming it to users.

Congratulations, you've invented MSFS2020.

lol

[UKflyer 630]

11 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

It could be called SimHeaven X-World.

still find it sparse in alot of areas

[Dirk.M 84]

Simheaven uses OSM and Microsoft footprint buildings.

If their ist not enaugh for you, you be free to work yourself at OSM.

Please don't understand me wrong, Armin works alone at Simheaven with a little help of the community.

He has only the data from OSM and the footprints and he brings different bluildings to every region.

And its freeware.

What more do you want?

[UKflyer 630]

1 hour ago, Dirk.M said:

Simheaven uses OSM and Microsoft footprint buildings.

If their ist not enaugh for you, you be free to work yourself at OSM.

Please don't understand me wrong, Armin works alone at Simheaven with a little help of the community.

He has only the data from OSM and the footprints and he brings different bluildings to every region.

And its freeware.

What more do you want?

sorry i don't see better coverage, in fact less density for trees and objects. Example below is EGSS top is default bottom is X-world, maybe i've installed it wrong or something..

 

 

[Greazer 1,321]

Well, look at the news today. I have said many times XP must support DLSS. It's a Must. Now it is more obvious than ever. Huge massive gains with DLSS 3.0! 

[MrBitstFlyer 3,875]

2 hours ago, UKflyer said:

sorry i don't see better coverage, in fact less density for trees and objects. Example below is EGSS top is default bottom is X-world, maybe i've installed it wrong or something..

Check order in Scenery_Packs.ini?

Here is a screenshot over EGSS looking away from the airport.  I am using SimHeaven X-World Europe (Not using Global Forests).  You are certainly missing trees and buildings - did you run the batch file in the Forests directory to link foliage to XP-12?

Edited September 20, 2022 by MrBitstFlyer

[Murmur 3,944]

Maybe LR should partner with ORBX for default scenery.

XP12 is gonna have the most realistic lighting, the most realistic weather and the most realistic flight operations, so once all the warts and bugs of the early release are solved, the only thing dragging it down is the current default scenery.

 

[UKflyer 630]

7 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Check order in Scenery_Packs.ini?

Here is a screenshot over EGSS looking away from the airport.  I am using SimHeaven X-World Europe (Not using Global Forests).  You are certainly missing trees and buildings - did you run the batch file in the Forests directory to link foliage to XP-12?

oh interesting thanks, yeh i have the 1200 forests directory in the vegetation library. I also use Xorganiser for the scenery packs order so not sure what's going on!

I
1000 Version
SCENERY

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EDLP Paderborn-Lippstadt/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LFMN Nice Cote d Azur X/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LPFR Faro/
SCENERY_PACK *GLOBAL_AIRPORTS*
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Berlin and Frankfurt/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Budapest/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Chicago/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Dubai/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Las Vegas/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - London/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Los Angeles/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - New York/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Paris/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Rio De Janeiro/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Saint Louis/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - San Francisco/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Sydney/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Washington DC/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-1-vfr/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-3-details/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-4-extras/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-5-footprints/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-6-scenery/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-7-forests/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-2-regions/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Vegetation_Library/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-8-network/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-0-exclusions/
 

Edited September 21, 2022 by UKflyer

[bakerman 31]

So from the Manual

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-0-exclusions/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-1-vfr/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-2-regions/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-3-details/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-4-extras/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-5-footprints/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-6-scenery/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-7-forests/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-8-network/
SCENERY_PACK E:\---------- Libraries ----------/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Vegetation_Library/

Exclusion needs to go to top and the Vegetation to the bottom

Bruno

 

[UKflyer 630]

19 minutes ago, bakerman said:

So from the Manual

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-0-exclusions/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-1-vfr/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-2-regions/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-3-details/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-4-extras/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-5-footprints/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-6-scenery/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-7-forests/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-8-network/
SCENERY_PACK E:\---------- Libraries ----------/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Vegetation_Library/

Exclusion needs to go to top and the Vegetation to the bottom

Bruno

 

ah amazing thanks, xorganiser needs to be updated with this!

[abrams_tank 7,426]

11 hours ago, Greazer said:

Well, look at the news today. I have said many times XP must support DLSS. It's a Must. Now it is more obvious than ever. Huge massive gains with DLSS 3.0! 

This could take a while, as per Ben Supnik from LR:

Quote

Why don’t we use FSR2 or DLSS? Both of these upscalers require motion vectors as inputs from the rendering engine, something X-Plane does not provide. We may support them in the future, but adding motion vector generation is not trivial.

 

[rka 916]

8 hours ago, Murmur said:

Maybe LR should partner with ORBX for default scenery.

XP12 is gonna have the most realistic lighting, the most realistic weather and the most realistic flight operations, so once all the warts and bugs of the early release are solved, the only thing dragging it down is the current default scenery.

 

Now that's a surprise 😉