2 hours ago, JasonPC said:

But in an all-core load a 5800x would easily beat my 5800x3d.

Unless that chip also loses the silicon lottery!

I'm a little surprised that 3 times the amount of L3 cache (32 MB in standard 5800X vs. 96 MB in upgraded 5800X3D) doesn't make some noticeable improvement in your sim's performance in the more complex areas.
Though a theoretical 0.5 Ghz loss of speed (4.7 vs. 4.2 GHz) on each core could negate any benefit, I suppose.

4 minutes ago, F737MAX said:

Unless that chip also loses the silicon lottery!

I'm a little surprised that 3 times the amount of L3 cache (32 MB in standard 5800X vs. 96 MB in upgraded 5800X3D) doesn't make some noticeable improvement in your sim's performance in the more complex areas.
Though a theoretical 0.5 Ghz loss of speed (4.7 vs. 4.2 GHz) on each core could negate any benefit, I suppose.

Didn't say it would not just that for overall performance (for other applications that don't care about cache) the 5800x would certainly be faster due to the higher clockspeed. This is further compounded if you have a chip like mine that can't sustain full boost speeds under 100% load across all cores.

I came from a 5600x and performance nearly doubled in some circumstances in msfs.

Edited January 5, 20233 yr by JasonPC

3 hours ago, Steve_mac said:

I would say the jump from an 8086k to a 5800x3D to was somewhat more substantial than from your 5800x

Ah gotacha - Sorry, didn't realize you were coming from the 8086....failed to read the entire thread 🙂