August 6, 200718 yr Phil Taylor recommends downloading the latest Direct X version. However, it's still a 9 version. My Vista Ultimate came with Direct X 10. For the sake of FSX, should I download and install the version Phil recommends for FSX performance or NOT? Will I be able to get back the Direct X 10 when I need it? I'm not sure I understand this situation. Looking for some professional guidance here. Stan
August 6, 200718 yr Stan - Vista shipped with, and runs, both DX9 and DX10. They are two entirely separate parts of the OS and you can safely update DX9 without worry of "messing with" DX10. The DX9 version shipped with Vista was not a current version (some estimates place it all the way back to 2004) and it could use some upating. Just another example of poor work by MS on the Vista release.DougEdited because I can't spel Intel 10700K @ 5.1Ghz, Asus Hero Maximus motherboard, Noctua NH-U12A cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB 3200 MHz RAM, RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, 100TB of disk storage. Klaatu barada nickto.
August 6, 200718 yr Doesn't the lastest DirectX runtime contain updates for versions 9 & 10?. The download at Guru3d.com states Dx9 & 10 in it's download section.Checking the unpacked directory it certainly seems to contain d3d10.dll's.
August 6, 200718 yr Even if it does, an older version will not overwrite a newer version in most MS installers.If it has that capacity - it will give you a big warning message.
August 6, 200718 yr I agree that the naming conventions that MS use makes it difficult to determine the applicability of DX upgrades. What complicates things more is that there are "parallel" installs of "regular" D3D, and "managed code" D3D. If you look in the windowssystem32 folder you will see what appears to be the same d3d_xx.dll files in vista as in XP, so I assume Vista "DirectX10" will use those for DirectX9-based game graphics.If you search MS download site on directX, you see: DirectX End-user runtimedxwebsetup.exe ver 9.20.1057 date 7/31/2007Supported Operating Systems:"... Windows Vista; Windows Vista Business; Windows Vista Business 64-bit edition; Windows Vista Business N; Windows Vista Enterprise; Windows Vista Enterprise 64-bit edition; Windows Vista Home Basic; Windows Vista Home Basic 64-bit edition; Windows Vista Home Basic N; Windows Vista Home Premium; Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit edition; Windows Vista Starter; Windows Vista Starter N; Windows Vista Ultimate; Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit edition; ... "scott s..
August 6, 200718 yr It is actually quite simple: DX10 is backwards compatible with DX9. The Vista desktop itself (Aero) is rendered in DX9.There are some newer DX9 run-times since the release of Vista, so for now you can install the latest DX9 on top of Vista. Once DX10 *really* gets some momentum with more DX10 games (including the FSX/DX10 patch and the DX10 patch for Vista Aero), you might want to update to the latest DX10 run-times, assuming, of course, you have a DX10 graphic board.Pat
August 6, 200718 yr Author Please remember its not just the traditional runtime, D3DX is now shipped as a DLL in the runtime.The June 2007 DX Redist contains an updated D3DX that allows FSX to use the /3G switch and fix our use of D3DX. This is for both DX9 and DX10. ex-Aces Lead PM, FSX SP1 and SP2 ex-Intel LRB native title enablement, ex Intel Gaming and Graphics Samples PM now Graphics and Multicore PM in Visual Computing Software Enabling.
August 7, 200718 yr Will, a normal Auto Windows Update do the trick?Cheers,Chris Porter:-outtaPerthWestern AustraliaCheck out my 5th Around the World flight with MS FSX at http://members.iinet.com.au/~portercbp/fly...W_05/index.html Core i7 3820 | Asus P9X79-DELUX SLI M/b | 32GB Corsair DDR3 1600Mhz RAM | DeepCool Gemmaxx CoolernVidia GTX580 1536MB GDDR3 Video | ASUS MW221u 21" WS LCD2 x Kingston V300 240gb SSD RAID for OS and FSX | 2 x Seagate Barracuda 1Tb SATA HD's in RAID | 1 x 1Tb ext b/up driveAntec P193 Case | Corsair 1000W PSU | MS Win 7 Professional 64 BitMy website and aviation photo gallery - www.christopherbporter.com
August 7, 200718 yr Hi With me running FSX on vista and having just purchased the MSI 8800 ultra. i'm i right in saying that all i need now is the DX10 patch for FSX and i will see the benifits of DX10. Thanks Shaun
August 7, 200718 yr Yes. When the patch is released you'll be ready-to-go. - Doug Intel 10700K @ 5.1Ghz, Asus Hero Maximus motherboard, Noctua NH-U12A cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB 3200 MHz RAM, RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, 100TB of disk storage. Klaatu barada nickto.
August 7, 200718 yr Author No, I believe you have to download this one yourself. I could be wrong, but that is my initial expectation. ex-Aces Lead PM, FSX SP1 and SP2 ex-Intel LRB native title enablement, ex Intel Gaming and Graphics Samples PM now Graphics and Multicore PM in Visual Computing Software Enabling.
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