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Anyone ever have the mouse lag real bad while in VR?  It may be okay on my first flight, but if I go back to the menu and then fly again it's very bad.  It will skip across an entire round gauge when the lag is bad.

I do have a wireless mouse so maybe that's causing issues.


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Known problem for months (years perhaps), it's been tracked down to potentially a controller being slightly engaged i.e. your rudder peddles, brakes, yoke, Xbox controller. If you neutralise their position that can free up the mouse to work as normal, but this doesn't work for everyone it seems but give it a go and see.

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I have been struggling with this as well and my mouse is wired. It seems okay at times and then suddenly really starts to lag. Makes cockpit interactions difficult to impossible when it happens. I manage, because I do a lot of my interactions using voice attack.


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yes, annoying problem. have that too from time to time with wired mouse. usually it will go over after a few minutes, luckily no need to restart the sim.


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This has always been an intermittent cockpit problem for me in VR, that is having to coerce my mouse into responding.  I'll have to check for noise from a controller.  Seems highly plausible for that's something I get from a couple of my axes if I forget to limit cycle them before flying.   Don't ever recall having this problem in 2D.

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Yes, same problem occasionnally. I never noticed if it was after starting a new flight. I have several peripheral that have potentiometer like the Alpha Yoke, Saitek pedal and throttle and my old CH Yoke that I converted to an additional input device in a box shape, the old axis are now used to control the cockpit and screen intensity (very usefull at night). My mouse is wireless.


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you should run MSFS in full screen mode (Alt Enter) before activating VR mode, that will solve all your mouse issues.


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4 hours ago, turbomax said:

you should run MSFS in full screen mode (Alt Enter) before activating VR mode, that will solve all your mouse issues.

This is false information, mouse lags still occur even with the game on full screen.


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On 2/24/2023 at 8:48 AM, MarcG said:

This is false information, mouse lags still occur even with the game on full screen.

just because it doesn't apply to your case doesn't make it false information, as it has not only solved the mouse cursor problem for me but several others as well. but don't take my word for it:

On 2/23/2023 at 2:13 AM, turbomax said:

you need to switch to full screen (Alt-Enter) before activating VR.

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very nice.

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13 minutes ago, turbomax said:

ust because it doesn't apply to your case doesn't make it false information, as it has not only solved the mouse cursor problem for me but several others as well. but don't take my work for it:

Likewise just because it worked for you & some others doesn't mean it and I quote you; "will solve all your mouse issues" 🙄


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I get lag in two different ways (regardless of full screen or not).  The way described here, plus a weird click lag that makes clicking buttons impossible unless I first move the mouse far away from the panel in question. Trying to turn on the landing lights, the switches won't respond until I move the mouse to the side window, then back to the switches. 

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31 minutes ago, eslader said:

the switches won't respond until I move the mouse to the side window, then back to the switches.

that shouldn't happen if you switch MSFS to exclusive full screen. you should be able to activate mouse clicks exactly where the mouse cursor appears in your headset display. what you describe happened to me only if I did not switch to full screen before switching to VR mode. I have only 1 monitor and 1 headset connected to my GPU.


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1 hour ago, eslader said:

I get lag in two different ways (regardless of full screen or not).  The way described here, plus a weird click lag that makes clicking buttons impossible unless I first move the mouse far away from the panel in question. Trying to turn on the landing lights, the switches won't respond until I move the mouse to the side window, then back to the switches. 

Yep the "mouseover toolbar window" bug was introduced in SU7 and never fixed thereafter, also - for the record - I have tried and going into fullscreen does not fix this issue. It is a regression bug and needs fixing on Asobos side, when is anyone's guess though...


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5 hours ago, turbomax said:

that shouldn't happen if you switch MSFS to exclusive full screen. you should be able to activate mouse clicks exactly where the mouse cursor appears in your headset display. what you describe happened to me only if I did not switch to full screen before switching to VR mode. I have only 1 monitor and 1 headset connected to my GPU.

For me, it's not a positional problem. The cursor is in the right place, and changes to the appropriate icon (knob/arrow/etc), but the clicks just don't work. 

 

And I do sim in exclusive full screen. It just started happening after this last update, so I'm guessing it's a new bug.

 

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