March 26, 20233 yr On 2/24/2023 at 6:23 AM, somiller said: Okay my problem ended up being Process Lasso. I uninstalled it and all was back to normal. Reinstalled Process Lasso and everything still okay. Obviously some incompatibility developed (for whatever reason) that was resolved by uninstall/reinstall. Faulting module name: WwiseLibPCx64P.dll - was the error I was getting in Event Viewer. I did a search for that and found a couple of related threads on Microsoft MSFS forums, including: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/process-lasso/429206 AND: https://flightsimulator.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4406047820690-How-to-troubleshoot-crashing-on-the-loading-screen-issues Samples of apps and programs preventing Microsoft Flight Simulator from launching Seagate Toolkit Nahimic service Asus Sonic Studio 2 Windows Audio Service Garmin Express WD Backup Logitech G Hub MSI Afterburner / Riva Tuner Statistics Server EVGA Precision OBS Xsplit Discord MacType Warsaw Banking App Wallpaper Engine A-Volute Sound studio Capture One MSI afterburner Process Lasso FRAPS Citrix Quick thanks for this - I've been troubleshooting this same crash and it also ended up being process lasso. 100% repeatable if I've got PL setting affinity for MSFS. Kael Oswald 9950X3D/ 64GB DDR5 6200 @ CL30 / Custom Water Loop / RTX 5090 / 3 x 48" LG C4 OLEDs
March 26, 20233 yr A long shot but try starting the sim as admin. It changes the initial startup procedure. sp
March 26, 20233 yr 2 hours ago, KL Oo said: Quick thanks for this - I've been troubleshooting this same crash and it also ended up being process lasso. 100% repeatable if I've got PL setting affinity for MSFS No, the problem is not Process Lasso, but users who run with settings they do not understand! Ciao Michael AMD Ryzen 7 9800x3d, Palit RTX 4080 GameRock OC, 64GB G.Skill DDR5 6000, MSI MAG X870E Tomahawk WiFi, LG C3 OLED 42" 4K TV, BenQ 24" Monitor. Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog + Pendular Rudder, Stream Deck XL, Tobii Eyetracker, TrackIR 5. Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Insider Build
March 26, 20233 yr 2 hours ago, mwe_EDVK said: No, the problem is not Process Lasso, but users who run with settings they do not understand! I presume thats some kind of an insult but instead of retorting I'll just simply ask - What am I doing wrong? I'll I'm doing in PL is setting FLIGHTSIMULATOR.EXE affinity to CORE 0 - 5 (on my 7900X3D). Please enlighten me. MSFS will load just fine if PL isn't running when MSFS is launched. If PL is running MSFS won't launch. Launching PL after MSFS has hit the main menu is fine and casues no issues. Fill me in oh smart one. @Sky_Pilot071 Thanks for the suggestion but running FLIGHTSIMULATOR.EXE as ADMIN still results in a crash. Kael Oswald 9950X3D/ 64GB DDR5 6200 @ CL30 / Custom Water Loop / RTX 5090 / 3 x 48" LG C4 OLEDs
March 26, 20233 yr Running with Process Lasso just fine but with an Intel 13900. I set MSFS on the power cores exclusively, with every other app I find running on to the E-cores (Tobii, FSRealistic etc.). They still run at 4Ghz, on the E-cores, and everything is fine. The only thing I do not mess with is Windows (Explorer.exe) and 'system' in the list. No affinities are set for these, as explorer.exe it is known to want to pick its own cores, and crashes if you mess with them. There is a note in the Process Lasso documentation to leave expolorer.exe alone. My sim definitely works better / smoother WITH Process Lasso, so either I am very lucky, or it is just down to the different PC configurations and programs running, which we know it normally is. Edited March 26, 20233 yr by bobcat999 Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
March 27, 20233 yr 17 hours ago, KL Oo said: FLIGHTSIMULATOR.EXE affinity to CORE 0 - 5 (on my 7900X3D wait, you have a 12c/24t cpu and you want to run MSFS at 3 cores… Why? Ciao Michael AMD Ryzen 7 9800x3d, Palit RTX 4080 GameRock OC, 64GB G.Skill DDR5 6000, MSI MAG X870E Tomahawk WiFi, LG C3 OLED 42" 4K TV, BenQ 24" Monitor. Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog + Pendular Rudder, Stream Deck XL, Tobii Eyetracker, TrackIR 5. Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Insider Build
March 27, 20233 yr 8 minutes ago, mwe_EDVK said: wait, you have a 12c/24t cpu and you want to run MSFS at 3 cores… Why? No, I have a 12C CPU (with SMT off) and I want to run MSFS on the 6 X3D cores....hence why I said Cores 0 - 5. Now, please enlighten me what I'm doing wrong. Edited March 27, 20233 yr by KL Oo Kael Oswald 9950X3D/ 64GB DDR5 6200 @ CL30 / Custom Water Loop / RTX 5090 / 3 x 48" LG C4 OLEDs
March 27, 20233 yr Sorry, I can't help you with this specific new CPU. There is almost no info or experience on the net regarding this processor. I for one would let windows and amds v-core optimizer do their job without additionally limiting the cores. Or I would try to assign CPU Sets in Process Lasso to MSFS so that MSFS uses these preferred cores but is not limited to them. Ciao Michael AMD Ryzen 7 9800x3d, Palit RTX 4080 GameRock OC, 64GB G.Skill DDR5 6000, MSI MAG X870E Tomahawk WiFi, LG C3 OLED 42" 4K TV, BenQ 24" Monitor. Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog + Pendular Rudder, Stream Deck XL, Tobii Eyetracker, TrackIR 5. Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Insider Build
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