Intel 14th Gen CPUs Out Oct 17

[regis9 4,014]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-launches-14th-gen-raptor-lake-refresh-core-i9-14900k-i7-14700k-and-i5-14600k-on-october-17

The linked article has some gaming comparisons with the 7950X3D but hopefully before long we’ll get some benchmarks including MSFS and the 7800X3D to see if any of the gap between the 7800X3D and the i9 13900k has been closed.

[regis9 4,014]

Tom‘s hardware has some MSFS benchmarks:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-14900k-cpu-review

Looks like a negligible improvement over the 13900k in MSFS and the AMD chips still outperform.

Now that that’s settled I may have to finally bite the bullet on a 7800X3D upgrade…seems like the best call windows 10 reinstall aside.

[Silverbird 115]

58 minutes ago, regis9 said:

Tom‘s hardware has some MSFS benchmarks:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-14900k-cpu-review

Looks like a negligible improvement over the 13900k in MSFS and the AMD chips still outperform.

Now that that’s settled I may have to finally bite the bullet on a 7800X3D upgrade…seems like the best call windows 10 reinstall aside.

Thanks Dave was waiting on toms hardware man I guess I have to move also lol here we go amd 7800X3D upgrade.

Edited October 17, 2023 by Silverbird

[brucewtb 249]

Are there 4K MSFS2020 Gen 14 benchmarks anywhere?  Anyway regardless of that for me the choice seems to be either the 14700K or the 13900K.  Not impressed by the increased power draw of the 14900K.  The AMD route would be a lot more expensive as I would need to get new DDR5 ram and a new cooler as well as the CPU and MB.

Bruce

Edited October 18, 2023 by brucewtb
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[Sethos 4,347]

Yeah, another set of dreadful chips from Intel. Run hot, use way too much power and are just an overall terrible value offer. Especially seeing the tiny performance uplift from 13th gen (let's be honest, this is a 13th gen refresh, not even worth calling it a new generation). 

[somiller 694]

The takeaway for me: If you want balanced gaming/productivity performance: 14700K. If you want best gaming performance, especially for MSFS: 7800x3d. Does this sound about right to the rest of you?

The difference in power draw between intel and amd (x3d) is dramatic, eh?

[G-RFRY 1,712]

Core i9 14900KF Breaks World Record, Almost Achieves 9.1GHz | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com)

G.Skill Shows Off DDR5-8600 RAM for Raptor Lake Refresh CPUs | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com)

Edited October 18, 2023 by G-RFRY

[brucewtb 249]

12 hours ago, somiller said:

The takeaway for me: If you want balanced gaming/productivity performance: 14700K.

That is my assessment as well. But what I would also like to know is how well this Gen 14 part would play when paired with a Gen 13 motherboard and bios upgrade.  You seem to get 13900K performance out of the 14700K and it is 200 AUD cheaper.  So appealing if for whatever reason you want to stay on the intel platform.

Bruce

[martin-w 3,235]

On 10/18/2023 at 1:29 PM, Sethos said:

 (let's be honest, this is a 13th gen refresh, not even worth calling it a new generation). 

 

Exactly, Intel are having a laugh calling it a new generation. All of the YT PC guy's like Jays2Cents and Gamers nexus are saying the same. 

[Silverbird 115]

Heres one of the few videos I found 

 

[G-RFRY 1,712]

DDR4 = DDR5.

 

[brucewtb 249]

Interesting vids.  So some benefit in MSFS2020 for the 14900K over the 13900K and for DDR5 over DDR4 at 1080P.  But I assume these differences could be rather less at 4K where the quality of the GPU has greater influence on FPS.

Bruce

[G-RFRY 1,712]

On 10/22/2023 at 4:41 AM, brucewtb said:

Interesting vids.  So some benefit in MSFS2020 for the 14900K over the 13900K and for DDR5 over DDR4 at 1080P.  But I assume these differences could be rather less at 4K where the quality of the GPU has greater influence on FPS.

Bruce

That PCIE 5 faster throughput on the 790 MB, The GPU has a bigger effect on 4K which again will benefit from a faster throughput.

[brucewtb 249]

On 10/23/2023 at 7:08 PM, G-RFRY said:

That PCIE 5 faster throughput on the 790 MB, The GPU has a bigger effect on 4K which again will benefit from a faster throughput.

The DDR4 MB I am considering - ASUS ROG Strix Z790-A Gaming Wi-Fi DDR4 -  has a PCIE 5 expansion slot.

Bruce

[G-RFRY 1,712]

I still prefer the APEX almost bullet proof only two memory channels CPU more OC Headroo. 

Edited October 26, 2023 by G-RFRY