October 16, 20232 yr https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-launches-14th-gen-raptor-lake-refresh-core-i9-14900k-i7-14700k-and-i5-14600k-on-october-17 The linked article has some gaming comparisons with the 7950X3D but hopefully before long we’ll get some benchmarks including MSFS and the 7800X3D to see if any of the gap between the 7800X3D and the i9 13900k has been closed. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
October 17, 20232 yr Author Tom‘s hardware has some MSFS benchmarks: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-14900k-cpu-review Looks like a negligible improvement over the 13900k in MSFS and the AMD chips still outperform. Now that that’s settled I may have to finally bite the bullet on a 7800X3D upgrade…seems like the best call windows 10 reinstall aside. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
October 17, 20232 yr 58 minutes ago, regis9 said: Tom‘s hardware has some MSFS benchmarks: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-14900k-cpu-review Looks like a negligible improvement over the 13900k in MSFS and the AMD chips still outperform. Now that that’s settled I may have to finally bite the bullet on a 7800X3D upgrade…seems like the best call windows 10 reinstall aside. Thanks Dave was waiting on toms hardware man I guess I have to move also lol here we go amd 7800X3D upgrade. Edited October 17, 20232 yr by Silverbird Cesar Martinez AMD 7800X3D RTX5080 NZXT N7 B650E | G.Skill 32GB DDR5 Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | Crucial MX500 (2×) | Crucial P3 Plus Monitor: Philips Evnia 34M2C6500 QD-OLED
October 18, 20232 yr Are there 4K MSFS2020 Gen 14 benchmarks anywhere? Anyway regardless of that for me the choice seems to be either the 14700K or the 13900K. Not impressed by the increased power draw of the 14900K. The AMD route would be a lot more expensive as I would need to get new DDR5 ram and a new cooler as well as the CPU and MB. Bruce Edited October 18, 20232 yr by brucewtb New info Bruce Bartlett Frodo: "I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
October 18, 20232 yr Yeah, another set of dreadful chips from Intel. Run hot, use way too much power and are just an overall terrible value offer. Especially seeing the tiny performance uplift from 13th gen (let's be honest, this is a 13th gen refresh, not even worth calling it a new generation). [MSI MPG X870E Carbon | 9800X3D (PBO +200Mhz / -20 Offset) | Corsair 64GB DDR5 (Custom Timings) | RTX 4090 Founders Edition (Undervolted) | WD SNX 850X 4TB + 4TB | Antec Flux Pro]
October 18, 20232 yr The takeaway for me: If you want balanced gaming/productivity performance: 14700K. If you want best gaming performance, especially for MSFS: 7800x3d. Does this sound about right to the rest of you? The difference in power draw between intel and amd (x3d) is dramatic, eh? i7-6700k • Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD5 • 32GB DDR4 2666 • EVGA FTW ULTRA RTX3080 12GB
October 18, 20232 yr Core i9 14900KF Breaks World Record, Almost Achieves 9.1GHz | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com) G.Skill Shows Off DDR5-8600 RAM for Raptor Lake Refresh CPUs | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com) Edited October 18, 20232 yr by G-RFRY Raymond Fry.
October 19, 20232 yr 12 hours ago, somiller said: The takeaway for me: If you want balanced gaming/productivity performance: 14700K. That is my assessment as well. But what I would also like to know is how well this Gen 14 part would play when paired with a Gen 13 motherboard and bios upgrade. You seem to get 13900K performance out of the 14700K and it is 200 AUD cheaper. So appealing if for whatever reason you want to stay on the intel platform. Bruce Bruce Bartlett Frodo: "I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
October 19, 20232 yr On 10/18/2023 at 1:29 PM, Sethos said: (let's be honest, this is a 13th gen refresh, not even worth calling it a new generation). Exactly, Intel are having a laugh calling it a new generation. All of the YT PC guy's like Jays2Cents and Gamers nexus are saying the same.
October 20, 20232 yr Heres one of the few videos I found Cesar Martinez AMD 7800X3D RTX5080 NZXT N7 B650E | G.Skill 32GB DDR5 Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | Crucial MX500 (2×) | Crucial P3 Plus Monitor: Philips Evnia 34M2C6500 QD-OLED
October 22, 20232 yr Interesting vids. So some benefit in MSFS2020 for the 14900K over the 13900K and for DDR5 over DDR4 at 1080P. But I assume these differences could be rather less at 4K where the quality of the GPU has greater influence on FPS. Bruce Bruce Bartlett Frodo: "I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
October 23, 20232 yr On 10/22/2023 at 4:41 AM, brucewtb said: Interesting vids. So some benefit in MSFS2020 for the 14900K over the 13900K and for DDR5 over DDR4 at 1080P. But I assume these differences could be rather less at 4K where the quality of the GPU has greater influence on FPS. Bruce That PCIE 5 faster throughput on the 790 MB, The GPU has a bigger effect on 4K which again will benefit from a faster throughput. Raymond Fry.
October 25, 20232 yr On 10/23/2023 at 7:08 PM, G-RFRY said: That PCIE 5 faster throughput on the 790 MB, The GPU has a bigger effect on 4K which again will benefit from a faster throughput. The DDR4 MB I am considering - ASUS ROG Strix Z790-A Gaming Wi-Fi DDR4 - has a PCIE 5 expansion slot. Bruce Bruce Bartlett Frodo: "I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
October 26, 20232 yr I still prefer the APEX almost bullet proof only two memory channels CPU more OC Headroo. Edited October 26, 20232 yr by G-RFRY Raymond Fry.
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