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Update: I have been flying with the Fenix A320, LOD 150, Render = 120 (4127x1727) with FG on and FPS locked at 60 FPS and it has been SOOO smooth! Very happy so far. 

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54 minutes ago, iFlySimX said:

Update: I have been flying with the Fenix A320, LOD 150, Render = 120 (4127x1727) with FG on and FPS locked at 60 FPS and it has been SOOO smooth! Very happy so far. 

What are you using to lock the FPS, RTSS? And do you have VSync On or Off?


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21 minutes ago, Alvega said:

What are you using to lock the FPS, RTSS? And do you have VSync On or Off?

RTSS and VSYNC off. 

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8 hours ago, eslader said:

A quick Google search indicates otherwise

A quick Google search has absolutely ZERO to do with my own personal experience with MY hardware. Have a nice day 😊

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For me with 3 screens: FG off is not good (poor performance). FG on is glorious!


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47 minutes ago, sniper31 said:

A quick Google search has absolutely ZERO to do with my own personal experience with MY hardware. Have a nice day 😊

Obviously, but claiming it is "not a common problem" because you, personally, have not encountered it comes across as, at best, confusion over how statistics work.

 

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2 hours ago, eslader said:

Obviously, but claiming it is "not a common problem" because you, personally, have not encountered it comes across as, at best, confusion over how statistics work.

Okay, fair point. My intent was to emphasis that I have a good, 3 year combined history using those two chips and have not encountered said audio problem, so a fair sample size. Also, across the board of other 7800X3D and 5800X3D users here on these forums, this was the first time I had ever heard of it being an issue, so another reason why I posted what I did. But, a common problem? Possibly, just not in my experience. 

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I suspect it has something to do with the motherboard it's on as well, though the chip is a factor (which I determined because the headphones worked fine with the 2700X, and then started dropping out when I put the 5800X3d on the same motherboard without changing anything else). But I've seen some reports that the problem goes away on certain motherboards with a firmware update. It's definitely not something that will hit everyone - I only mentioned it because I pulled my hair out for months and went through 3 different wireless headsets before I finally started finding people correlating the interference to the chip.

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2 minutes ago, eslader said:

I suspect it has something to do with the motherboard it's on as well, though the chip is a factor (which I determined because the headphones worked fine with the 2700X, and then started dropping out when I put the 5800X3d on the same motherboard without changing anything else). But I've seen some reports that the problem goes away on certain motherboards with a firmware update. It's definitely not something that will hit everyone - I only mentioned it because I pulled my hair out for months and went through 3 different wireless headsets before I finally started finding people correlating the interference to the chip.

I can definitely appreciate how much of a PITA that had to be to troubleshoot. Those kinds of issues are frustrating to say the least. It makes sense that it happens with some motherboards and not others. There is such a spread of variety when it comes to hardware in the PC world, even within the same platform, that it's a wonder we don't experience even more weird problems than we do. All that said, I do find the 7800X3D such a remarkable stable and good platform for gamin and flight simming. I don't use my flight sim PC for productivity tasks, so the 7800X3D is perfect for my use at this point. At least you were able to nail down the cause of your audio issues, because that would eventually lead to mass hair pulling for me...lol.

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Almost a month in and I am loving this new rig! Here is a little video with my specs and settings. 

 


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1 hour ago, iFlySimX said:

Almost a month in and I am loving this new rig!

Me too!  After a couple of weeks of 'getting to know 7800x3D' and getting everything setup and a few issues ironed out I'm very happy with the outcome.  I still have some issues w/ FG-related graphic aberration but it's variable and often it's fine.  Fortunately the native rate is high enough so that I never need to go below 40fps native in the most demanding scenarios and usually it's higher than that.   Right now I almost never see a single stutter from gate to gate, render scale is at 155 which adds along with higher TLOD levels unparalleled sharpness.  My only disappointment is that the motherboard simply won't reboot on its own if there is a BIOS setting that isn't working and/or it takes forever to reboot, hard to say which sometimes.  Whereas all motherboards in the past 15y for me would reboot and take you to the BIOS to make a change, of course.  This motherboard made me either hit the jumpers to clear the BIOS but sometimes I had to pull the RTX4090 just to get to the BIOS battery to remove it as that is the only action that would get me to a viable POST.  It's an MSI Pro 650P Wifi, and my prior board for 9900K was also MSI but it had no problem with this issue.  It's stable now, temps are fine and have yet to have a single CTD.

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5 hours ago, Noel said:

Me too!  After a couple of weeks of 'getting to know 7800x3D' and getting everything setup and a few issues ironed out I'm very happy with the outcome.  I still have some issues w/ FG-related graphic aberration but it's variable and often it's fine.  Fortunately the native rate is high enough so that I never need to go below 40fps native in the most demanding scenarios and usually it's higher than that.   Right now I almost never see a single stutter from gate to gate, render scale is at 155 which adds along with higher TLOD levels unparalleled sharpness.  My only disappointment is that the motherboard simply won't reboot on its own if there is a BIOS setting that isn't working and/or it takes forever to reboot, hard to say which sometimes.  Whereas all motherboards in the past 15y for me would reboot and take you to the BIOS to make a change, of course.  This motherboard made me either hit the jumpers to clear the BIOS but sometimes I had to pull the RTX4090 just to get to the BIOS battery to remove it as that is the only action that would get me to a viable POST.  It's an MSI Pro 650P Wifi, and my prior board for 9900K was also MSI but it had no problem with this issue.  It's stable now, temps are fine and have yet to have a single CTD.

Have you updated the Bios to the latest AGESA version? the longer boot times are due to AM5 motherboards doing memory training if you change som major settings in Bios, but they goes way faster with the latest version, but my motherboard also does memory training from time to time without me changing anything.

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9 hours ago, Noel said:

Me too!  After a couple of weeks of 'getting to know 7800x3D' and getting everything setup and a few issues ironed out I'm very happy with the outcome.  I still have some issues w/ FG-related graphic aberration but it's variable and often it's fine.  Fortunately the native rate is high enough so that I never need to go below 40fps native in the most demanding scenarios and usually it's higher than that.   Right now I almost never see a single stutter from gate to gate, render scale is at 155 which adds along with higher TLOD levels unparalleled sharpness.  My only disappointment is that the motherboard simply won't reboot on its own if there is a BIOS setting that isn't working and/or it takes forever to reboot, hard to say which sometimes.  Whereas all motherboards in the past 15y for me would reboot and take you to the BIOS to make a change, of course.  This motherboard made me either hit the jumpers to clear the BIOS but sometimes I had to pull the RTX4090 just to get to the BIOS battery to remove it as that is the only action that would get me to a viable POST.  It's an MSI Pro 650P Wifi, and my prior board for 9900K was also MSI but it had no problem with this issue.  It's stable now, temps are fine and have yet to have a single CTD.

Same here, I do get some weird ghosting/jitters with TAA & FG. Other than that, locked at 60fps with the Fenix and smooth 99% of the time.


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6 hours ago, Ixoye said:

Have you updated the Bios to the latest AGESA version? the longer boot times are due to AM5 motherboards doing memory training if you change som major settings in Bios, but they goes way faster with the latest version, but my motherboard also does memory training from time to time without me changing anything.

That must be what's happening.  I did update the latest BIOS from MSI, is there another source? Never heard of AGESA version but again latest from US MSI site. I've found that any change to any setting in the BIOS does that slow start thing which is new coming from Intel for me.  So is your idea if any change is made just plan on it taking a while to reboot?  Boot time is fine now...


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34 minutes ago, Noel said:

That must be what's happening.  I did update the latest BIOS from MSI, is there another source? Never heard of AGESA version but again latest from US MSI site. I've found that any change to any setting in the BIOS does that slow start thing which is new coming from Intel for me.  So is your idea if any change is made just plan on it taking a while to reboot?  Boot time is fine now...

AGESA is the AMD Bios, maybe MSI have another name for it, but if you have the latest it should be fine.

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