Latest info / thoughts regarding...

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- Game Mode , On or off?

- Hags, on or off?

- Rolling Cache, On or off - and size?

- NVIDIA Cache, Normal, 10Gb...more?

- NCP settings for FS (and in game)

- Empty Nvidia fodlers from Cache

- Air Traffic, Ground Traffic etc?

- DLSS vs TAA (and how is DLSS 3.7)

😃 Just wanna hear about latest recommendations.

Thank you.

[ZLA Steve 377]

Most of these are dependent on system config. Give us an idea of your hardware and you'll get some opinions.

[Ixoye 1,847]

If you use FG you need HAGS on, and if you use AMD X3D cpu's you need Game Mode on, the rest? personal options.

Edited April 26 by Ixoye

[cianpars 1,217]

3 hours ago, Ixoye said:

If you use FG you need HAGS on, and if you use AMD X3D cpu's you need Game Mode on, the rest? personal options.

I knew about HAGS on for FG but that's the first I've heard about Game Mode on for X3D CPUs.  Can you explain the logic behind that?

[RaptyrOne 1,462]

21 hours ago, gearsdown said:

Empty Nvidia fodlers from Cache

Never seen the point of doing this and never done it.

[Ixoye 1,847]

3 hours ago, cianpars said:

I knew about HAGS on for FG but that's the first I've heard about Game Mode on for X3D CPUs.  Can you explain the logic behind that?

I have no idea, just that AMD themselves and all the videos I've seen recommend it, this instruction is for Ryzen 9 but applies to all X3D as far as I understand.   https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/how-to-set-up-your-system-with-a-new-amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d-or/ba-p/589464

[cianpars 1,217]

44 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

I have no idea, just that AMD themselves and all the videos I've seen recommend it, this instruction is for Ryzen 9 but applies to all X3D as far as I understand.   https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/how-to-set-up-your-system-with-a-new-amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d-or/ba-p/589464

Thanks for that lxoye.  I ran through that link and checked that al the steps had been followed and were up to date. I did have Game Mode on, though I thought I had previously disabled it.  BIOS, drivers, Xbox app and Game are all installed and up to date.  It was useful to check though.

[Cpt_Piett 4,890]

 

[cianpars 1,217]

9 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

 

Thanks, I will watch that later.  I suspect I have probably made many of the tweaks and adjustments, but there are always a few others or new ideas to consider.  Also useful to check which ones I've done as I tend to forget over time.

[Noel 4,572]

17 hours ago, Ixoye said:

I have no idea, just that AMD themselves and all the videos I've seen recommend it, this instruction is for Ryzen 9 but applies to all X3D as far as I understand.

After Ixoye mentioned this I Googled this and it appears 7800X3D may not need Game Mode like the dual-CCD X3D CPUs do.  FWIW, it's been off here until I turned it on yesterday but I don't see any difference in multi core use or other performance aspects and it appears the same as when GM was off, looking at Resource Monitor, i.e. there is no 'core-parking' happening with GM on or off.  I bolded the comment from their test below where they actually did have core parking happening, and this I think suggests a chipset driver may have solved this for 7800X3D:

The PPM provisioning file driver is one of those four components, and it is responsible for adjusting the power profiles that govern parking the slowest cores when you're playing a game. For a dual-chiplet processor, this completely shuts down (parks) the cores on the ‘standard’ CCD to keep certain latency-sensitive workloads (like games) on the 3D V-Cache chiplet, thus keeping performance snappy. 

That core-parking technique isn't needed for the 7800X3D because it only has a single compute chiplet. However, the PPM file provisioning driver is still needed for other purposes, so it's still installed as part of the chipset driver package. Unfortunately, due to an apparent bug in the chipset driver provided by AMD (or perhaps an enumeration issue with our test motherboard), this package enabled core parking on our test system even after a fresh Windows install, thus resulting in noticeably lower performance in several game titles.

AMD is looking into the issue, and we learned that the Ryzen 7 7800X3D's cores should never park. Unfortunately, that isn't spelled out in the reviewer guide, and our cores were parking during gaming on a fresh Windows install. Luckily we noticed this as the source of the performance issues, but we haven't had time to verify it on other motherboards due to the late discovery. 

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On 4/26/2024 at 3:00 PM, Ixoye said:

If you use FG you need HAGS on, and if you use AMD X3D cpu's you need Game Mode on, the rest? personal options.

FG? Frame Generation? Still on a 3060 Ti, so no use for that. But is there no benefits having it on at all? I guess the HAGS question was talked about before the 4X series of GPU's right?

...and any benefits (with my card) having it OFF? Any real facts on that part?

Cheers! 😃 

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On 4/27/2024 at 3:39 PM, Noel said:

After Ixoye mentioned this I Googled this and it appears 7800X3D may not need Game Mode like the dual-CCD X3D CPUs do.  FWIW, it's been off here until I turned it on yesterday but I don't see any difference in multi core use or other performance aspects and it appears the same as when GM was off, looking at Resource Monitor, i.e. there is no 'core-parking' happening with GM on or off.  I bolded the comment from their test below where they actually did have core parking happening, and this I think suggests a chipset driver may have solved this for 7800X3D:

The PPM provisioning file driver is one of those four components, and it is responsible for adjusting the power profiles that govern parking the slowest cores when you're playing a game. For a dual-chiplet processor, this completely shuts down (parks) the cores on the ‘standard’ CCD to keep certain latency-sensitive workloads (like games) on the 3D V-Cache chiplet, thus keeping performance snappy. 

That core-parking technique isn't needed for the 7800X3D because it only has a single compute chiplet. However, the PPM file provisioning driver is still needed for other purposes, so it's still installed as part of the chipset driver package. Unfortunately, due to an apparent bug in the chipset driver provided by AMD (or perhaps an enumeration issue with our test motherboard), this package enabled core parking on our test system even after a fresh Windows install, thus resulting in noticeably lower performance in several game titles.

AMD is looking into the issue, and we learned that the Ryzen 7 7800X3D's cores should never park. Unfortunately, that isn't spelled out in the reviewer guide, and our cores were parking during gaming on a fresh Windows install. Luckily we noticed this as the source of the performance issues, but we haven't had time to verify it on other motherboards due to the late discovery. 

...and how about non-3D CPU's? Together with that 3060 Ti Im using a 5600X.