I am trying to learn how to use the G1000 in the Beechcraft Bonanza and followed a Youtube tutorial.

I enter my flight plan using the MSFS initial screen (World Map) entering my departure and arrival airports and also select IFR Low altitude airways and the flight plan is drawn between the two airports.

I then start the flight and the MFD does not display in magenta the flight plan. I select the fight plan page in the PFD and I can see all the waypoints displayed.

What do I need to do to see the (magenta) flight plan on the map?

Thanks

Have you tried different airports?  There are some 3rd party airports that do not display approach waypoints (e.g. KBUF).

Thanks for your suggestion.

I now see that the flightpath is only 'drawn' (in magenta) for the approach (I had not 'scrolled' the 'map' across to the arrival airport) - there is no line(s) drawn from the departure airport to the start of the approach. As such only the magenta line for the approach is displayed.

I had only selected an 'approach' (ie ILS 34L) and left the 'arrivals' as Direct. Maybe if I had also selected an 'arrival' there would have been more of the flight plan displayed?   

Maybe by not selecting an 'arrival' then it is assumed that the pilot will manually fly from the departure to the beginning of the approach?

Why didn't I select an 'arrival'?        Because the each one I tried made a VERY long flight path, maybe four times the direct route distance.

Is it acceptable for a real pilot to leave 'arrival' as Direct?

Here is an image showing where the departure point is (YSBK - arrowed) and no magenta line coming from it yet a short magenta line leading to the arrival (YSSY - circled in red).

I have watched a few youtube videos and none mentioned about NOT selecting (ie leaving it as Direct) an 'arrival'.

 

This is new learning for me.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 7, 20242 yr by Jarnie

On 5/6/2024 at 6:20 AM, Jarnie said:

What do I need to do to see the (magenta) flight plan on the map?

Your first waypoint may be too close to the departure to see it.

Try zooming in (range Knob) on the MFD and see if it appears.

Note:

Current leg is magenta.

Next legs are white.

 

 

 

Edited May 7, 20242 yr by vonmar

Thanks I tried that and the first leg is not showing.  If I knew how to attach a screen shot I would.

 

Maybe as you mentioned the leg is too short but I don't think so.  I will do some experimenting

Is there any "MANSEQ" legs showing in the flight plan? This would mean a discontinuity and the Garmin expects you to "manually sequence" yourself to the next waypoint, and won't show a magenta line.

Personally, I prefer to just set a departure and destination in world map and then manually select an approach/arrival using the Garmin itself. This lets you select different transitions, which the world map screen does not.

Also, to answer your other question, I believe it is perfectly normal to fly direct to the IAF (initial approach fix) rather than using a STAR (arrival), especially in a small piston plane.

Edited May 7, 20242 yr by s0cks

28 minutes ago, Jarnie said:

Thanks I tried that and the first leg is not showing.  If I knew how to attach a screen shot I would.

 

Maybe as you mentioned the leg is too short but I don't think so.  I will do some experimenting

Post your route / waypoints and others can test it.

The flight plan on the PFD should give the airport and distance to the first waypoint.

2 hours ago, s0cks said:

Is there any "MANSEQ" legs showing in the flight plan? This would mean a discontinuity and the Garmin expects you to "manually sequence" yourself to the next waypoint, and won't show a magenta line.

YES there is. I now assume that is the reason why there is no line drawn FROM Departure airport only a white line at the start of the approach path followed by a magenta line.   

Is this because I did NOT select an 'arrivals'? 

On the MSFS flight plan page it displays the entire path(s) but not in the FPL.

Can I still 'fly' the flightplan using manual headings until I intercept the white line at the start of the approach (and then swap to AP and APR)? 

 

2 hours ago, vonmar said:

Post your route / waypoints and others can test it.

Can't work out how to save the flight plan. 

This is the FlightPlan (manually)

Departure airport   YSBK  (any parking)

Arrival Airport YSSY   (it normally automatically selects RWY 34L)

Select   Low Level Airways

Leave Departures set at Direct

Leave Arrivals set at Direct

Set Approach to ILS 34L

That's it.

 

BTW how can I include/insert and image in my posts? [added slightly later) the MORE 'tab' has appeared and now can select SAVE (flight plan)  HOWEVER how do I attach it to my post?

 

 

[added later again)

Searching for MANSEQ I find the following which explains more       https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/manseq/447704

 

Edited May 8, 20242 yr by Jarnie
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42 minutes ago, Jarnie said:

This is the FlightPlan (manually)

Departure airport   YSBK  (any parking)

Arrival Airport YSSY   (it normally automatically selects RWY 34L)

Select   Low Level Airways

Leave Departures set at Direct

Leave Arrivals set at Direct

Set Approach to ILS 34L

That's it.

I did your plan.

You flight plan is only 9 miles, correct?

Best to do another longer route to check the G1000 out.

Magenta route line is shown ok but ATRET is blocking some of it.

Edited May 8, 20242 yr by vonmar

1 hour ago, Jarnie said:

YES there is. I now assume that is the reason why there is no line drawn FROM Departure airport only a white line at the start of the approach path followed by a magenta line.   

Is this because I did NOT select an 'arrivals'? 

On the MSFS flight plan page it displays the entire path(s) but not in the FPL.

Can I still 'fly' the flightplan using manual headings until I intercept the white line at the start of the approach (and then swap to AP and APR)?

BTW how can I include/insert and image in my posts? [added slightly later) the MORE 'tab' has appeared and now can select SAVE (flight plan)  HOWEVER how do I attach it to my post?

[added later again)

Searching for MANSEQ I find the following which explains more       https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/manseq/447704

 

Yeah, you can normally delete the MANSEQ bit from the flight plan and that will fix it. I'm not entirely sure what causes it, but it's another reason why I tend to configure the Garmin manually from the cockpit rather than the world map as it then doesn't tend to have those problems.

You can manually fly toward the approach. You will need to go into the flight plan menu and select "Activate leg" once you reach it though. Or, if it's IAF (first waypoint of the approach) you can go to the PROC (procedures page) and activate the approach which should then guide you directly to the IAF. The G1000 is quite a powerful unit. I'm not sure how you are learning to use it, but I would highly recommend finding an online tutorial on YouTube.

For adding images to forum posts, you need to upload the image somewhere first. I like to use https://postimages.org/ because it's free and doesn't require any registration/signup.

1 hour ago, vonmar said:

You flight plan is only 9 miles, correct?

Correct. I deliberately chose a short flight to learn how to use the G1000 on approach - didn't want to take forever to get there from the departure location. Maybe there is a better method?

 

14 minutes ago, s0cks said:

You will need to go into the flight plan menu and select "Activate leg" once you reach it though.

 

14 minutes ago, s0cks said:

I like to use https://postimages.org/ b

Thanks for the advice.

 

 

Thanks again everyone.

Edited May 8, 20242 yr by Jarnie

Aha  now here is the MDF what I wanted to include earlier showing only the routes for the approach displaying - no route from the departure airport

 

https://i.postimg.cc/K8C1sBGK/FLIGHT-PLAND-MISSING.jpg

 

Oh  just the url displays. Which link in 'postimages' do I insert so that the image displays and not the url?

Edited May 8, 20242 yr by Jarnie
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