5 hours ago, martynahubert 1802 said:

I just use DLSS v.3.7.2 and how can I turn on rBAR?

First it needs to be enabled in the BIOS. What I’ve done is then to force it to on using nvidia profile inspector. Not sure if the last step is needed.

If I recall correctly, I think nvidia control panel - system information - show the rBAR status.

13 hours ago, Abriael said:

Absolutely do not use frame generation then. With that kind of frame rate, it'll 100% make things worse instead of better.

Your confusing Frame Generation with Lossless Scaling, FG is built in on all higher end Nvidia cards.

8 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

First it needs to be enabled in the BIOS. What I’ve done is then to force it to on using nvidia profile inspector. Not sure if the last step is needed.

If I recall correctly, I think nvidia control panel - system information - show the rBAR status.

rBAR is only shown active (or not) in Nvidia Inspector, latest MB should already have rBAR turned on. My old Gigabyte board required me to update the bios and then turn it on. It also has to be turned back on after every update and that includes Nvidia driver updates. DLSS files can be swapped in and out using the fantastic DLSS swapper tool.

18 minutes ago, SierraHotel BSc said:

rBAR is only shown active (or not) in Nvidia Inspector

It's possible (but not sure if it's necessary) to force it to on in Inspector. 

19 minutes ago, SierraHotel BSc said:

It also has to be turned back on after every update and that includes Nvidia driver updates

Do you mean in Inspector?

From https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/what-is-resizable-bar-and-should-you-use-it:

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You can check whether Resizable BAR is active through the Nvidia Control Panel. Click “System Information” in the bottom-left corner and you should find it listed among your GPU details. If marked “Yes”, it will take effect in supported games, and if it’s marked “No”, it’s currently disabled.

 

18 hours ago, SierraHotel BSc said:

Not sure about FSX as I haven't used it since the release of 2020, but in MSFS 2020 you need a decent (i.e.3080/4080) card to get the performance. I do not use Lossless Scaling with my 3060. The Frame Generation Mod is far superior in my opinion, for those running low end 20, 30 and 40 series Nvidia cards as it's already switched on in the higher end cards (it doesn't work on series 1 cards). Here is where you get it (free)

https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/738?tab=files

For those not aware of the difference between the Frame Gen Mod and lossless scaling, simply put, the FG mod switches on frame generation on low end model Nvidia cards i.e. 2060/70, 3060/70 etc. Lossless Scaling manipulates the screen image but you need at least 60fps in MSFS2020 (see Bumpy above for FSX performance) to see any real benefit, hence the need for a 3080/4080 etc. Also for those using any FG mod I advise updating your DLSS to 3.7.2 and turning on rBAR.

So to recap the FG Mod is for those of us peasents🤪 running low end 20/30 series cards and Lossless is for those who already have blinding performance with their 380/90,4080/90 super duper sign me up for a second mortgage cards 🙃🤣 and just want to show off😇😉

I disagree. Loseless Scaling is working great with my RTX2070 card. You just need to ensure to have enough FPS buffer before using it. For example, for 60 Hz 1440p monitor, you need to achieve 40 fps stable before activating loseless scaling (as described in the instructions). That, I can do easily thanks to autofps. I will lose 10 fps due to the LS resource usage, but then the magic of the tool will still multiply the remaining 30 fps by 2, so you get 60 fps.

 

In my view, even with a RTX2070, Loseless Scaling is superior to the FG mod. Less artifacts (even if not perfect) and much less cumbersome to install and keep updated. Also, it can be activated and deactivated "live" (with keyboard shortcut) and does not require dx12, which is not running well with my GPU due to the low VRAM.

 

Only drawback I see with Loseless Scaling is the price, but I think that for 7 euros it is well worth it.

5 hours ago, SierraHotel BSc said:

Your confusing Frame Generation with Lossless Scaling, FG is built in on all higher end Nvidia cards.

No. Frame Generation is supported by all generation 40XX nvidia cards, but it's something the user always has to toggle on and off manually.

Considering this particular user's base frame rate, Frame Generation should stay firmly off, because it relies on decent natural frame rate to gather the data it needs to generate more frames. 

Edited August 26, 20241 yr by Abriael

On 25.08.2024 at 20:41, Abriael said:

Absolutnie nie używaj wtedy generacji klatek. Przy takiej liczbie klatek na sekundę, to w 100% pogorszy sytuację zamiast ją poprawić.

with such low frames there won't be much satisfaction, let alone ivao or vatsim however, FG works without any problems with pmdg and I am satisfied

On 26.08.2024 at 01:29, Cpt_Piett said:

Najpierw trzeba go włączyć w BIOS-ie. Następnie wymusiłem to za pomocą nvidia profile inspector. Nie jestem pewien, czy ostatni krok jest potrzebny.

Jeśli dobrze pamiętam, wydaje mi się, że stan rBAR jest widoczny w Panelu sterowania nVidia, w informacjach o systemie.

I checked in NVIDIA it is not enabled but in BIOS there is no option to enable it either

I think the topic is closed because no one has advised me what the reason is that Fenix doesn't work with FG but anyway thanks everyone for the advice

3 hours ago, martynahubert 1802 said:

I think the topic is closed because no one has advised me what the reason is that Fenix doesn't work with FG but anyway thanks everyone for the advice

Uh. We did. 

Your natural frame rate with the Fenix is too low, which means frame generation is making things worse instead of better. This is intrinsic to how frame generation works. 

On 8/24/2024 at 6:36 PM, Abriael said:

If your natural FPS is under 60, I'd suggest steering clear from frame generation altogether. 

Somebody better tell my humble 2070 as with the settings I use now in MSFS it’s ’natural’ FPS is around 27 - 35 depending on aircraft and circumstances.

With the FG mod this becomes 54 - 70.

2 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

Somebody better tell my humble 2070 as with the settings I use now in MSFS it’s ’natural’ FPS is around 27 - 35 depending on aircraft and circumstances.

With the FG mod this becomes 54 - 70.

Frame generation "mod?" 

We're talking about the option in the sim. 

1 minute ago, Abriael said:

Frame generation "mod?" 

We're talking about the option in the sim. 

We are indeed talking about the option in the sim.

 I use the mod that allows me to select the frame generation option in the sim.

Are you sure you know what you’re talking about?

Just now, DD_Arthur said:

We are indeed talking about the option in the sim.

 I use the mod that allows me to select the frame generation option in the sim.

Are you sure you know what you’re talking about?

Yes. I am. Are you? 

I'm sure FG pushes your framerate numbers up. Would love to see the 1% lows tho. 

The fact that frame generation causes stutters with low natural FPS is well known and part of how frame generation works. And the user has natural frame rate even lower than you do. 

23 hours ago, Abriael said:

No cóż, tak zrobiliśmy. 

Twoja naturalna liczba klatek na sekundę z Fenixem jest zbyt niska, co oznacza, że generowanie klatek pogarsza sytuację zamiast ją poprawiać. Jest to nieodłączne w sposobie działania generowania klatek. 

this is the problem that it doesn't work with fenix FG, when I turn on FG msfs freezes, that's way I asked how solve it