1 hour ago, FS++ said:

Not sure when you downloaded the patch, as you can see in my last reply to Balint, had to re-upload the patch because of a missing file. Make sure you replace the 3 files in \CandC\ folder, then check again. Thanks

 

I downloaded just an hour before my post.

On 9/19/2024 at 11:39 AM, RALF9636 said:

I downloaded just an hour before my post.

Please redownload the patch and just change "mce.exe" this time. V3.1.0.1. Thanks

58 minutes ago, FS++ said:

Please redownload the patch and just change "mce.exe" this time. V3.1.0.1. Thanks

Same behaviour as before. MCE is not stopping at the "... to the line..." line.

 

2 hours ago, RALF9636 said:

Same behaviour as before. MCE is not stopping at the "... to the line..." line.

 

Very strange.

Here are a few suggestions...

Go to \My Documents\Multi Crew Experience\Checklists\ folder and delete all the .cml files.

If still no go, ask co-pilot to read a section that doesn't have the "to the line", then when reading starts say "suspend check"  (NOT "suspend checklist") and see if the speech engine gets it. That's the one that is emulated.

If no luck with that command, use "suspend checklist" instead and see if you can get it suspended.

 

1 hour ago, FS++ said:

Go to \My Documents\Multi Crew Experience\Checklists\ folder and delete all the .cml files.

Doesn't make a difference.

1 hour ago, FS++ said:

If still no go, ask co-pilot to read a section that doesn't have the "to the line", then when reading starts say "suspend check"  (NOT "suspend checklist") and see if the speech engine gets it. That's the one that is emulated.

If no luck with that command, use "suspend checklist" instead and see if you can get it suspended.

 

Both "suspend check" and "suspend checklist" work fine when I say it.

20 hours ago, RALF9636 said:

Doesn't make a difference.

Both "suspend check" and "suspend checklist" work fine when I say it.

Thanks. That rules out a few things.

We think it could be one of those "subtle multi-threading bugs". Looking at Balint signature and the PC running at 5 GHZ with many many cores, there was a clue there.

The thread that handles checklist reading had a small delay to allow the speech engine to recognize the simulated command. Turns out it was holding a lock, preventing MCE receiving speech notification on another thread. It worked on a 3.5 GHZ 4 core machine, but not yours or Balint's.

The delay which was first 1 second, then lowered to 1 millisec has now been removed.

If the theory is correct, the newly uploaded patch today should get it sorted. Please re-download. It's now V3.1.0.2 and only need to replace "mce.exe"

 

 

1 hour ago, FS++ said:

Thanks. That rules out a few things.

We think it could be one of those "subtle multi-threading bugs". Looking at Balint signature and the PC running at 5 GHZ with many many cores, there was a clue there.

The thread that handles checklist reading had a small delay to allow the speech engine to recognize the simulated command. Turns out it was holding a lock, preventing MCE receiving speech notification on another thread. It worked on a 3.5 GHZ 4 core machine, but not yours or Balint's.

The delay which was first 1 second, then lowered to 1 millisec has now been removed.

If the theory is correct, the newly uploaded patch today should get it sorted. Please re-download. It's now V3.1.0.2 and only need to replace "mce.exe"

 

 

No luck with 3.1.0.2 unfortunately, still the same.

I can confirm though that I am also running 6 cores at 5 GHz.

 

23 hours ago, RALF9636 said:

No luck with 3.1.0.2 unfortunately, still the same.

I can confirm though that I am also running 6 cores at 5 GHz.

 

Thanks for feedback.

There is a revised file in \CandC\ folder in today's uploaded patch. Just replace that file. Same MCE version.

Would appreciate someone else on English language Windows Edition (running Ultimate Edition of MCE) confirm that it is working. Thanks.

Edited September 25, 20241 yr by FS++

2 hours ago, FS++ said:

Thanks for feedback.

There is a revised file in \CandC\ folder in today's uploaded patch. Just replace that file. Same MCE version.

Would appreciate someone else on English language Windows Edition (running Ultimate Edition of MCE) confirm that it is working. Thanks.

Still the same...

On 9/25/2024 at 5:18 PM, FS++ said:

Thanks for feedback.

There is a revised file in \CandC\ folder in today's uploaded patch. Just replace that file. Same MCE version.

Would appreciate someone else on English language Windows Edition (running Ultimate Edition of MCE) confirm that it is working. Thanks.

Sorry for being very inactive lately. I will be able to test it from Saturday onwards 😉

On 9/25/2024 at 7:58 PM, RALF9636 said:

Still the same...

Checkout the newly uploaded patch. Make sure you replace all files.

Would also appreciate if you can confirm this is happening with Fenix. Thanks

 

Edited October 7, 20241 yr by FS++

20 hours ago, FS++ said:

Checkout the newly uploaded patch. Make sure you replace all files.

 

No luck with 3.1.0.3. Same as before.

 

20 hours ago, FS++ said:

 

Would also appreciate if you can confirm this is happening with Fenix. Thanks

 

Confirmed. I see the same behaviour as described and shown in the video (I always set the altimeter myself so I never bothered.).

On 10/8/2024 at 3:05 PM, RALF9636 said:

No luck with 3.1.0.3. Same as before.

 

I assume you replaced the 3 files in CandC folder.

Could you try temporarily changing your regional settings to "United states", restart PC and see if the simulated pause gets to the speech engine?

Are you seeing a red text stating "command doesn't exist" right after the FO states "complete to the line"?

If that's the case, then it would explain why the speech engine doesn't get it under your original settings.

Really baffling as all iterations I sent so far work on a typical English Windows setup..

If it's no-go we'll have to change the implementation by doing it some other way.

22 hours ago, FS++ said:

I assume you replaced the 3 files in CandC folder.

I did.

22 hours ago, FS++ said:

Could you try temporarily changing your regional settings to "United states", restart PC and see if the simulated pause gets to the speech engine?

Still the same.

22 hours ago, FS++ said:

Are you seeing a red text stating "command doesn't exist" right after the FO states "complete to the line"?

No. I just see my responses to the checklist items.

 

On 10/10/2024 at 3:49 PM, RALF9636 said:

I did.

Still the same.

No. I just see my responses to the checklist items.

 

The new feature now has a new implementation that no longer uses a simulated pause command. Try it out using latest patch V3.1.0.4