No, I have not. For some aircraft these two assignments work, for others not. I will have to dig into Spad.Next and find the variables that trigger when Avionics switches are turned on in the 'pit. 

I discovered something else, though... if I assign something to a controller button, then this something will not work if I try to turn it on with a mouse in the cockpit. That led to all sorts of ridicolous situations. For example, I assigned two alternators to two buttons on one of my controllers. When I switched the alternators to ON with the mouse, the silly switches moved to the ON position, but both alternators were in fact OFF - because I had not used the controller buttons! Not sure if this is the case for all aircraft and all assignments, but I had this happen many times now. albeit not always! Which makes it even worse. Silly...

I am rapidly getting to the point where I will do all profiles in spad.Next and be done with it. 

 

On 11/26/2024 at 5:07 PM, jcomm said:

My guess (from experience so far...)

Thanks but we are all guessing around. I like per se the controller config in 2024 but these 3 layer profile settings need to be explained. As mentioned elsewhere above I miss a clear option to actually select and then edit any of these profiles. To date I am fully lost where I make changes. Why not be able to tick/ highlight/select eg „aircraft specific settings“ and then I know what I make changes to. So far it is wild guessing. At least for me

6 minutes ago, DAD said:

I like per se the controller config in 2024 but these 3 layer profile settings need to be explained.

It's pretty easy:

1. General settings - All other settings not in 2. or 3. below
2. Aircraft settings - Common settings for all aircraft
3. Specific aircraft settings (ie. Cessna 172) - These are specific settings for the aircraft only

1 minute ago, abrams_tank said:

It's pretty easy:

1. General settings - All other settings not in 2. or 3. below
2. Aircraft settings - Common settings for all aircraft
3. Specific aircraft settings (ie. Cessna 172) - These are specific settings for the aircraft only

That part I understood. but again, how do I know which layer 1 - 3 I am working in when editing? would love to actually select one layer and then make changes to it

20 minutes ago, DAD said:

That part I understood. but again, how do I know which layer 1 - 3 I am working in when editing? would love to actually select one layer and then make changes to it

Can't you click on the name of it on the bottom left side?

In any case, that's not how I setup my controls inputs. The way I set it up is I click on Keyboard or Thrustmaster 16000m (I use a Thrustmaster 16000m) on the left side.  Let's say I click on Thrustmaster 16000m.  Then I search for the actual term I want to bind to. For example, I want to bind to "Cockpit Quickview 120° left".  So I search for maybe "cockpit quickview" and it will bring up all the terms with the word "cockpit" and "quickview" in it.  When I find  "Cockpit Quickview 120° left," I then bind my Thrustmastser 16000m button to it - for example, button 5. Then after it's bound, I search for button 5 to see if there are any conflicts.

I was able to do all my bindings in 30 to 45 minutes in MSFS 2024 and it works pretty much the same as MSFS 2020 for me.  I have done a more detailed writeup of how I bind:

Like I said in that detailed thread, at least for me, binding in MSFS 2024 is easier than MSFS 2020, because the hard part is learning the actual terminology to bind to.  So the hard part was learning that terminology in MSFS 2020 - it's the same terminology in MSFS 2024.

Edited November 28, 20241 yr by abrams_tank

1 hour ago, DAD said:

Thanks but we are all guessing around. I like per se the controller config in 2024 but these 3 layer profile settings need to be explained. As mentioned elsewhere above I miss a clear option to actually select and then edit any of these profiles. To date I am fully lost where I make changes. Why not be able to tick/ highlight/select eg „aircraft specific settings“ and then I know what I make changes to. So far it is wild guessing. At least for me

I think you will only be able to set "Specific" when the developer enables it in the model itself. 

I haven't tried to check that but I guess any aircraft with a feature that is unique to it's type will show such a feature under the "Specific" layer.

I started my flights in FS 2024 with a Red Bull Racer (don't recall which one I picked) and that was the first time I met this new and rather powerful interface, even if "tricky"... Then I decided to define a new Profile and thought about it as "GENERAL", in the Keyboard layer because I didn't like some of the new standard settings à lá 2024 although I was ok with others. I clicked "Duplicate" and named it "GERAL" ( actually the English "GENERAL" in good Portuguese ). 

Should I make it propagate to All airplanes ?  YES so I thought & did, but didn't make it Default... 

Then I needed to define the Airplane controls, but not under "Keyboard" because those I wanted to assign because they has been set by default and I didn't want it that way or weren't set at all, like Rudder which had been assigned to the T.16000 and I wanted to assign to my Saitek Combat Rudder, and Toe Brakes which were probably only assigned to some combination of key presses (I didn't investigate that) but I wanted to assign again to my Saitek Combat Rudder toe brakes, so I opened the T.16000 and the Saitek Rudder layers and created, again, a profile for each one named "GENERAL"... But this turn around I ticked both the All airplanes and Default options under the cogwheel...

After going flying that racer, I picked the next one for a test flight, and indeed both under T.16000 and Saitek Rudder, the "GERAL" profile was there by default. But in the keyboard section the "... Tarnsverse 2024" was being displayed ...

I should probably have loaded the first Racer and edit and rename the GERAL Keyboard Profile, perhaps naming it "GERAL TECLADO" ( "GENERAL Keyboard" ) and then apply to all airplanes and make it Default too ?

Instead I created a new "GERAL Teclado" in the new Racer I was willing to test flight and the mess started 😕

My present interpretation is:

All Airplanes Option:

- Create and propagate a Profile for all airplanes of a given class using the the "All airplanes" tick option - if the aircraft you presently have selected is an Airplane, it'll propagate to all airplanes, but NOT to aircraft of the "Helicopter" or "Lighter than Air" classes... I believe it'll propagate to the "Gliders" class though, but I don't exactly recall 😕 Will see later at home and try to edit here;

Default Option:

- After testing a bit more, this one appears to be specific to the current model you have loaded **only** and the semantics are : make this the profile that is selected by default when you load this specific aircraft;

I will continue to dig into the details 🙂

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Edited November 28, 20241 yr by jcomm

2 hours ago, jcomm said:

I will continue to dig into the details

appreciated. would assume you are digging faster than MSFT... let's see