Has anyone been able to get AAO to control the throttle levers in the E-Jets? It won't work with the THROTTLE or THROTTLE_EX1 (what's the difference?) axes. I've peeped the LVARS in Dev Mode but can't get them to work either. The only way I've gotten it to work is using the MSFS Throttle axes, which I don't like as I always forget when I change planes. Honeycomb Bravo if that matters. 

Thanks. 

3 hours ago, haskell said:

what's the difference

These events come directly from the MSFS SDK:

Aircraft Engine Events

The EX1 were a new addition to the SDK with MSFS, the other existed already in FSX. Asobo doesn't explain what the difference is.

FSS don't use either of them, they are using MSFS Input Events, which you will find on the equally named tab on the event selection dialog (provided that you are using the latest version of AAO, otherwise they are in a group called "MSFS InputEvents". You only can see IEs in the list when AAO is connected to the sim and you are sitting in the cockpit of that plane.

LEVER_THROTTLE_LEFT
LEVER_THROTTLE_RIGHT

Axis Min = 0
Axis Max = 1
Rounding = Float

They use IEs for other things too, all having a value range of 0 - 1 and rounding = Float
EVT_BRAKE_PEDAL_L
EVT_BRAKE_PEDAL_R
LEVER_FLAP
SPEED_BRAKE

Ailerons, Elevator and Rudder are controlled by the SDK axis events (second box from the top, first selection group)
AXIS_AILERONS_SET
AXIS_ELEVATOR_SET
AXIS_RUDDER_SET

(MSFS generally prefers axis Events)

Same for the AP MCP knobs
EVT_AP_ALT_SEL_INC
EVT_AP_ALT_SEL_DEC
EVT_AP_HDG_SEL_INC
EVT_AP_HDG_SEL_DEC

etc.

Please note: I just read this off my saved config in AAO offline mode. My MSFS 2020 recently chose to reset itself and I lost all my addons. I can only hope that nothing has changed here.

Edited December 4, 20241 yr by Lorby_SI

Oh my gosh! I could spend a month guessing and never have figured that out. Works like a charm! THANK YOU

6 hours ago, haskell said:

I could spend a month guessing and never have figured that out.

My advice: check the MSFS InputEvents first thing when the SDK doesn't work. Especially in MSFS 2024! 

IEs (and their cousins, the BVars) are the "official" external control method in MSFS.

I could sure use some clear instruction on how to calibrate the throttles on the eJets. I have tried and tried to get the throttles to sit in the Idle position visually, but the best I could do is about 40% of the way above idle. The settings in the calibration screen are a complete mystery and don't seem to work.

Thanks

5 hours ago, topcat_1952 said:

The settings in the calibration screen

What "calibration screen" are you referring to? I'm not aware that AAO has one of those.

Can't see why you would have to calibrate anything with those input events, they should cover the entire range by default?

Edited February 6, 20251 yr by Lorby_SI

It's in the EFB screen under Settings (cog on upper right gets you in), then tab on botttom right says Calibration. 

Never mind, I'm going to try and use my Bravo rather than the Thrustmaster Airbus Quadrant. 

21 minutes ago, topcat_1952 said:

It's in the EFB screen under Settings (cog on upper right gets you in), then tab on botttom right says Calibration. 

Never mind, I'm going to try and use my Bravo rather than the Thrustmaster Airbus Quadrant. 

When you are using AxisAndOhs, I would advise against applying any extra calibration that the aircraft developers provide. In most cases that combination won't work. 

Anyone have an update for this?  I have been trying all kinds of throttle bindings, and nothing seems to work properly.  Sometimes , throttle moves but half way, often throttle just goes into reverse and no forward movement.  There are no other bindings for throttle, in AAOs or in the simulator controls.  Set to nothing.  I am using Honeycomb Bravo.   Setting up throttles for other planes works.  Just cant get it to work for the FSS Ejets

 

1 hour ago, HighTowers said:

Anyone have an update for this?  I have been trying all kinds of throttle bindings, and nothing seems to work properly.  Sometimes , throttle moves but half way, often throttle just goes into reverse and no forward movement.  There are no other bindings for throttle, in AAOs or in the simulator controls.  Set to nothing.  I am using Honeycomb Bravo.   Setting up throttles for other planes works.  Just cant get it to work for the FSS Ejets

 

Which one of the EJets in what simulator? Did you try the InputEvents that I posted above? Be mindful of the value range.

26 minutes ago, Lorby_SI said:

Which one of the EJets in what simulator? Did you try the InputEvents that I posted above? Be mindful of the value range.

FSS EJets MSFS2024. I have tried all kinds of inputEvents from above, plus anything related to throttle, including LVARS that are apparently specific to FSS.  (FSS_EXX_EVT_LEVER_THROTTLE_L)

Sometimes there is a reaction of throttles, but the engines behave erratically going up and down or go half way.  In AAO the inputs have full movement showing. Values have been changed like above, (0 to 1) and still nothing works.   I havent found a template anywhere online to try.  Perhaps something changed in this new experimental version.

5 minutes ago, HighTowers said:

FSS EJets MSFS2024. I have tried all kinds of inputEvents from above, plus anything related to throttle, including LVARS that are apparently specific to FSS.  (FSS_EXX_EVT_LEVER_THROTTLE_L)

Sometimes there is a reaction of throttles, but the engines behave erratically going up and down or go half way.  In AAO the inputs have full movement showing. Values have been changed like above, (0 to 1) and still nothing works.   I havent found a template anywhere online to try.  Perhaps something changed in this new experimental version.

OK, I just downloaded that version.

These LVars seem to work for me (=type into the "Enter Variable" box)

L:FSS_EXX_LEVER_THROTTLE_L_MOUSE_INP, Number

L:FSS_EXX_LEVER_THROTTLE_R_MOUSE_INP, Number

The value range is Axis Min = 0, Axis Max = 1, Rounding "Float". The threshold for the Reversers is 0.3 - how exactly you use that depends on how you want to operate the Reversers.

32 minutes ago, Lorby_SI said:

OK, I just downloaded that version.

These LVars seem to work for me (=type into the "Enter Variable" box)

L:FSS_EXX_LEVER_THROTTLE_L_MOUSE_INP, Number

L:FSS_EXX_LEVER_THROTTLE_R_MOUSE_INP, Number

The value range is Axis Min = 0, Axis Max = 1, Rounding "Float". The threshold for the Reversers is 0.3 - how exactly you use that depends on how you want to operate the Reversers.

Thanks very much.  Never would have thought to try something that says MOUSE_INP.  But the honeycomb bravo throttle does have a reverse axis, so this setup ends up being very dangerous to going into reverse thrust when you just want to go to idle at the detent.  Might be better to just have a toggle reverse thrust button. 

I have assigned the reverser lever to "L:FSS_EXX_LEVER_THROTTLE_L_MOUSE_INP, 0"  when pressed and "L:FSS_EXX_LEVER_THROTTLE_L_MOUSE_INP, 1"  when released?

1 minute ago, Torkermax said:

 "L:FSS_EXX_LEVER_THROTTLE_L_MOUSE_INP, 0"

What's that? I've never seen syntax like this?