Little Navmap 3.0.13.beta1 for MSFS 2024 released

Direct Download

► Windows 64-bit Installer (MSFS and X-Plane) - LittleNavmap-win64-3.0.13.beta1-Install.exe
► macOS - LittleNavmap-macOS-3.0.13.beta1.zip
► Linux (64 bit, based on Ubuntu 22.04) - LittleNavmap-linux-ubuntu-22.04-3.0.13.beta1.tar.xz
► Linux Debian Installation Package (64 bit, based on Ubuntu 22.04) - LittleNavmap-linux-ubuntu-22.04-3.0.13.beta1-1_amd64.deb

Other Versions:

► Windows 32-bit Installer (only for FSX and P3D) - LittleNavmap-win32-3.0.13.beta1-Install.exe
► Linux (64 bit, based on Ubuntu 20.04 for Debian or older systems) - LittleNavmap-linux-ubuntu-20.04-3.0.13.beta1.tar.xz
► Linux Debian Installation Package (64 bit, based on Ubuntu 20.04) - LittleNavmap-linux-ubuntu-20.04-3.0.13.beta1-1_amd64.deb

Zipped Windows releases without installer are available in the alternative download locations below or from the release assets at GitHub - Little Navmap Releases - Version 3.0.13.beta1 (scroll down to Assets).

► Alternative Download Locations. Look into sub-folders for beta, development or release candidates.

► Read here if you have problems downloading Little Navmap for Windows
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Notes

This is a test release of Little Navmap that adds support for MSFS 2024 and fixes other small issues. Please read the release notes below.

Note that not all reported issues were fixed so far. See Release 3.0.13. This will be done in the next releases.

Translations and user manual are not yet updated.

The MSFS 2024 Steam installation should work but is untested. Do not hesitate to give feedback if you see issues.

Version 3.0.13.beta1

Changes from 3.0.12 to 3.0.13.beta1

MSFS 2024 Scenery Library #1198

There are limitations since Little Navmap has to load the complete scenery library through the MSFS SimConnect interface and cannot rely on files anymore. All files used by Little Navmap from MSFS 2020 were dropped due to the streaming only approach of MSFS 2024. This required a full new compiler implementation.

Note that some of theses limitations can only be fixed by Asobo.

• The simulator has to run to load the scenery library.
• The simulator connection in Little Navmap has to be paused during loading. You will not see aircraft updates in Little Navmap while loading.
• Loading airports and navaids takes about 10 minutes. Future optimizations are planned.
• Detection of add-on airports is not possible. Right click on an airport icon on the map, the airport search result table or the flight plan table and use the function Mark Airport as add-on which will add a userpoint on top of an airport marking it as an add-on.
• Airports have no city, country or state/province names.
• Airport names are always English. Translations or exonyms are not available.
• Neither closed runways nor closed airports can be recognised.
• About 140 ILS of 4100 are not connected to runways and therefore won’t be shown in the Little Navmap elevation profile. Example: LOWI OEV heading West.
• Runways used by procedures which are present at an airport do not always match. Example: EDDK, LSZR, LSZN, ENSB, EKRN, LFLO, LOWK and more where runways have been renamed recently in the real world.
• The airport Istanbul Intl (LTFM) is missing in the stock data. Little Navmap will show the airport if you install an add-on.
• A workaround has to be used to detect if an airport has lighted runways or not since this information is missing in the SimConnect interface. This is not 100 percent reliable.
• MSFS 2020 provides around 42000 airports while MSFS 2024 has almost 84000 airports. Half of these are heliports.
• Airspaces are not available through SimConnect. You can use other sources for airspaces. See chapter Little Navmap User Manual - Loading Airspaces for more information and links to public airspace sources.
• Airport aprons are not available, only taxiways.
• Airline codes for parking are missing.
• Navaids like waypoints, VOR, NDB or ILS can only be loaded if they are connected to a procedure, a runway or an airway. This means that waypoints in the North Atlantic needed for Oceanic tracks will be missing, for example. LOWI localizer OEJ heading East cannot be loaded and is missing on the map. As a result, around 70000 navaids are missing from the map due to SimConnect limitations, which do not allow the world-wide enumeration of navaids.
• Full SID and STAR are duplicated for each runway. This will be fixed in one of the next releases of Little Navmap and does not affect functionality.
• Note that all fields in the load scenery library dialog are now disabled when selecting MSFS 2024 since no path is used.
• A warning dialog is shown when trying to compile MSFS 2024 with the 32-bit build.
• Note that loading airports via SimConnect allows to read encrypted add-on airports. You will not see the notification message about encrypted airports anymore for MSFS 2024.

MSFS 2024 Other

• Added detection of MSFS 2024 Steam and Microsoft Store installations. Detection of Steam installations is untested but should work.
• Added reading and writing of MSFS 2024 flight plans to export from menu File and multiexport. Ctrl+Shift+F now saves a PLN file for MSFS 2024 from the Little Navmap menu File. Note that you have to load the flight plans in the MSFS 2024 EFB after starting a free flight. #1216
• The keyboard shortcut Ctrl+Shift+B is now used for MSFS 2020 PLN files. #1216
• Note that detailed user or AI/multiplayer aircraft descriptions are not available in MSFS 2024 since aircraft files are not accessible.

MSFS Simulators

• Added TACAN and VORTAC station types for all MSFS simulators including display of channel.
• Removing airport vehicles now from all MSFS simulator AI traffic.
• Now flagging all VOR and NDB waypoints as artificial in FSX, P3D and MSFS simulators to hide them in Little Navmap. These are not real waypoints and are used only internally to build the airway and routing network system.
• Now omitting duplicate waypoints with invalid regions in all MSFS simulators. Also using better duplicate waypoint removal for MSFS 2020 now.
• Added exclusion of traffic and AIRAC BGL from loading for MSFS 2020 to avoid error messages in the log.

Other

• Fixed issue where ILS could not be found for procedure if airport ident was empty. This resulted in recommended navaids not being resolved in procedures (red error message in procedure search).
• Fixed bug where X-Plane 11/12 FMS exported FMS format had departure and destination wrongly swapped.
• Fixed crash when selecting airport as alternate in airport search result table or in logbook where Add as Alternate was wrongly enabled despite having an empty route. #1222
• Fixed drawing issue where exact vertical lines were not shown in Mercator projection. This affected measuring lines, flight plan legs, airways and more. Example: Airway L888 between PEXUN and SANLI. #1221
• Fixed disappearing large distance rings when zooming close in. #1207
• Removed AUSOTS track system since it is discontinued. Now uses preferred routes.
• Fixed airway and ILS text background affected by airspace display. Background color for labels was incorrect. #1207
• Removed white fill for unknown runway surface and replaced it with light gray for better visibility in dark and light map themes.
• Fixed wrong transponder display 0000 shown for ships and other vehicles. Now omitted.
• Added map theme MapBox Streets. Remove an already installed map theme if you have one. Otherwise, Little Navmap will show error messages hinting you to do so.
• Added airway type description to flight plan table configuration to make airway suffixes L (low) and H (high) clearer.
• Updated to World Magnetic Model WMM2025 coefficients for more accurate declination calculation when using X-Plane and MSFS simulators.
• ILS feather geometry is now using a minimum width of 2 degrees to avoid ILS feathers shown as lines in all simulators.
• Improved on-ground approximation to avoid wrong takeoff detection when hovering with helicopters.
• Fixed more disambiguations for translation texts to avoid wrong translations.
• Changed certain texts to be untranslatable to avoid issues with database indicators.
• Added disambiguations for translation texts to avoid same translation for procedure restrictions and airway types, for example.
• Updated translation files and add Chinese back again.

See the included CHANGELOG.txt or here online for a complete list across all versions.

All files are checked by VirusTotal.

Known Bugs: EDDM and maybe more ILS are detected as VOR. Seems MSFS 2024 is a constantly moving target. This worked a few days ago.🤦‍♂️

Alex

2 hours ago, albar965 said:

Seems MSFS 2024 is a constantly moving target.

This is so discouraging, I mean for designers like you.

You work hard, get things done and then they change stuff, totally unacceptable BUT what can we do?

Nothing.

Awesome job, Alex, thank you!!!

I am getting addicted to LNM. 🙂

I know it is moving map but sometimes I want to see just the flight plan, VFR and fly it without seeing it on the map, so much fun!

34 minutes ago, arb65912 said:

This is so discouraging, I mean for designers like you.

You work hard, get things done and then they change stuff, totally unacceptable BUT what can we do?

Nothing.

Awesome job, Alex, thank you!!!

You're welcome. 🙂 I already complained here and got some feedback: https://devsupport.flightsimulator.com/t/provide-readable-airport-data-for-little-navmap/11926/8

Hope they add the missing features.

Funny is how this thing changed while I did development.🤕 
BGL files disappeared after starting the sim one day. ILS from SimConnect stopped to work due to suddenly wrong indications. I hope there are no more surprises.

Alex

 

Alex,

At least your got it to work with MSFS2024. That's a major accomplishment. Let's hope that Asobo eventually sees the error of their ways when it comes to making the airport and navdata BGL files available on the user's local computer.

What's the reason that add-on airports aren't included?

Jay

Edited January 15, 20251 yr by jabloomf1230

7 hours ago, jabloomf1230 said:

At least your got it to work with MSFS2024. That's a major accomplishment. Let's hope that Asobo eventually sees the error of their ways when it comes to making the airport and navdata BGL files available on the user's local computer.

What's the reason that add-on airports aren't included?

Thank you, Jay,

Add-on airports *are* included. Only the flag stating them as add-on is missing. So no yellow circles or add-on search, but the airports are there.

I get more reports that LNM does not find ILS at all now. 

BTW: You can switch between the beta and the stable version without messing up your settings.

Alex

BTW: You can switch between the beta and the stable version without messing up your settings.

Thank you for stating that  - Was reluctant to try it as the stable version works perfectly for me.

 

On 1/14/2025 at 5:24 PM, albar965 said:

Funny is how this thing changed while I did development.🤕 
BGL files disappeared after starting the sim one day. ILS from SimConnect stopped to work due to suddenly wrong indications. I hope there are no more surprises.

Yes, I can imagine how frustrating it must be. I hope they will not delete things, I do not care if they add more but no deleting and fixing what is not working.

11 hours ago, albar965 said:

I get more reports that LNM does not find ILS at all now. 

In what way you mean "find"? I see ILS Feathers on the map.

 

11 hours ago, albar965 said:

BTW: You can switch between the beta and the stable version without messing up your settings.

But that is in Options? I looked and I understand it is searching for downloading versions, no? How do I switch? I will not , just curious how.

@albar965 Alex, when you do all work for 2024, are you having any plans to develop LNM even further?

I mean maybe ChartFoc plates or searching for real life routes? I am only curious, not asking anything, you work enough. 🙂

 

Is it possible to use this version with my 2020 little_navmap_msfs.sqlite DB from 3.0.12?

I am currently using the 2020 database for the airports, latest Navigraph little_navmap_navigraph.sqlite for the navaids and this is fine for planning and moving map, etc. But, I am missing the ability to save and write the 2024 PLN format.

I guess, I am asking if I can switch to this Beta without updating the database using FS2024, as I have the 2020 DB and Navigraph updates which are suitable enough for me as a GA flyer.

14 hours ago, arb65912 said:

Yes, I can imagine how frustrating it must be. I hope they will not delete things, I do not care if they add more but no deleting and fixing what is not working.

SimConnect seems to be quite stable now. At least this is what they want me to use. Asobo already said that the will add missing features but don't know when.

14 hours ago, arb65912 said:

In what way you mean "find"? I see ILS Feathers on the map.

Some people do not see any ILS at all. I had only a few missing (EDDM, for example). Anyway, this will be fixed with the next LNM release. I'm working on it but I'd rather fix a few more things before doing the next beta.

This is the problem with the streaming approach of '24. You can get something new every day.

14 hours ago, arb65912 said:

But that is in Options? I looked and I understand it is searching for downloading versions, no? How do I switch? I will not , just curious how.

Nope. I was talking about a full installation. But this is not needed. 

You can use the beta fine for all other simulators too. No need to reinstall the stable. You can also use the MSFS 2020 scenery library with MSFS 2024 by just switching to it in the menu in the LNM beta. MSFS 2020 should work fine with the beta.

14 hours ago, arb65912 said:

Alex, when you do all work for 2024, are you having any plans to develop LNM even further?

I have no plans to quit development. All other simulators are still fully supported. It's just that the adaptation to '24 took more than a month of my time, which I could have used for new functions instead.🫤

What is expected that implementing new features is more effort, takes more time and requires more testing while the program grows bigger. That is also the reason why I have to turn down some requests.

Alex

 

 

8 hours ago, salasnet said:

Is it possible to use this version with my 2020 little_navmap_msfs.sqlite DB from 3.0.12?

Absolutely.  You can also use the beta for MSFS 2020. You can also use the '20 scenery library while flying '24 and save the new flight plan format for the '24 EFB.

Alex

Edited January 16, 20251 yr by albar965
Clarification

Thank you for the response. I should have waited until I installed it, checked for myself that everything was working as expected, rather than immediately shoot off a question. 

Also, I tried uploading a 2024 format saved PLN plan to https://planner.flightsimulator.com/ and I got an error saying that it is not a recognized format.  However, when I downloaded a PLN file from the FS2024 EFB planner to my computer, and tried to upload it to the online planner, I got the same error.

So I do not think the problem is on your end. The online planner just doesn't seem to want to accept any uploaded PLN files, even though they have now made that feature available. Have you been able to get that to work?

1 hour ago, salasnet said:

Also, I tried uploading a 2024 format saved PLN plan to https://planner.flightsimulator.com/ and I got an error saying that it is not a recognized format.

Another user already created a ticket for this (https://github.com/albar965/littlenavmap/issues/1234). The strange thing is that I use exactly the same version in the PLN file as MSFS. Have to see on what they are choking there. 🙂

1 hour ago, salasnet said:

However, when I downloaded a PLN file from the FS2024 EFB planner to my computer, and tried to upload it to the online planner, I got the same error.

Happens quite often with all MSFS versions. They often cannot load their own plans.🤕 Seems the web-planner is not different.

Alex

I downloaded the macOS version at work and I cannot seem to find the script to launch it in Portable mode:

macOS: Little Navmap Portable.command

https://www.littlenavmap.org/manuals/littlenavmap/release/3.0/en/PORTABLE.html

I even looked inside the App Package and I do not find the .command file anywhere. Any thoughts?

1 minute ago, salasnet said:

I downloaded the macOS version at work and I cannot seem to find the script to launch it in Portable mode:

macOS: Little Navmap Portable.command

There is none in the macOS build. 

But you can create your own. Create a .sh script containing something "Little Navmap Portable.sh" containing:

./Little Navmap.app/Contents/MacOS/littlenavmap  -c "Little Navmap Cache" -p "Little Navmap Settings" -l "Little Navmap Logs"

Put the script besides "Little Navmap.app" and run it from the terminal or try double click in Finder.

I'll add it to one of the next releases.

Alex