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Returning to Flight Simming

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Hello, everyone.

I am returning to flight swimming after losing my wife five years ago. The last flight sim I owned was MSFS 2020, but I never dove into it due to my wife's illness and other reasons. I just bought FS2024, and now I'm planning on a new PC build, which will consist of:Ryzon 9 9950X3D, Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite Motherboard, 64GB G.Skill Trident RAM, Crucial 2TB NVME M.2 SSD. 
I'm trying to keep the costs to a minimum, so I'm choosing a 16GB 5070Ti.
Should I choose Ryzen 7 7800 and 32MB of RAM instead? But, I want to keep up with technology as much as I can. 

Will this run my FS2024 well? Any critique and suggestions welcome.

Pete S.

10th gen CPU I7-10700K, MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Edge MB, RAM 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB-DDR4 3600, 

2X 1TB Sabrent Rocket Q M.2 Nvme SSD. Enermax RGB CPU Liquid Cooler.(Still waiting on Evga RTX 3080 Video)

My condolences on your loss, Pete.

I think the ideal MSFS CPU right now is the 9800X3D.  The 9950X3D is actually a bit slower running MSFS because of the added overhead of a second 8-core CCD, and since those 8 CPU cores on that second CCD can't directly avail themselves of the monster-sized 96MB 3D level-3 cache, they're not really helpful in running the sim.  The 16-core dual-CCD chip is considerably more expensive, and generates a lot more heat.  So if you're not running other applications (e.g. video rendering) that need lots of parallel cores, I'd stick with the single-CCD, 8-core X3D chips (7800X3D or 9800X3D).  Right now I'm still running the previous-generation 7800X3D chip, and it rocks running MSFS2020, especially with frame generation on a good GPU.

I went with 64GB of 6000 MHz CAS 30 RAM on my MSFS build as a future-proofing measure based on Microsoft's system requirements specs for MSFS2024--that said, I don't run MSFS 2024 outside of the occasional experimental session so far, so the extra RAM hasn't proven to be necessary or useful--at least not yet.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

Condolences from me as well. 

Won't be of any help regarding your question though as I've been kind of 'out of the loop' regarding the newest tech out there. I'm running an 'old' 7950X3D with a 4090 and get stellar performance in MSFS2024. Not upgrading anytime soon.

Richard

7950x3d   |   32Gb 6000mHz RAM   |   8Tb NVme   |   RTX 4090    |    MSFS    |    P3D    |      XP12  

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1 hour ago, Swe_Richard said:

I've been kind of 'out of the loop' regarding the newest tech out there. I'm running an 'old' 7950X3D with a 4090

How do you survive with such ancient tech?

Luke Kolin

I make simFDR, the most advanced flight data recorder for FSX, Prepar3D and X-Plane.

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Thanks Bob. I was just checking the 9800x3d out, and you convinced me to save on the CPU. I may also trim the memory to 32GB. I love Avsim and the cogent advice I get here. Do you think the 5070Ti will run the sim okay?

If I can sell my present equipment on EBay I may actually save more than I expected.

2 hours ago, Swe_Richard said:

Condolences from me as well. 

Won't be of any help regarding your question though as I've been kind of 'out of the loop' regarding the newest tech out there. I'm running an 'old' 7950X3D with a 4090 and get stellar performance in MSFS2024. Not upgrading anytime soon.

Thanks Richard. Unfortunately, my equipment is a couple of generations behind, so I would like to catch up with the tech, with the possibility of selling the older tech. The FS2020 and 2024 requires a lot more horsepower than I have at this time.
 

Pete S.

10th gen CPU I7-10700K, MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Edge MB, RAM 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB-DDR4 3600, 

2X 1TB Sabrent Rocket Q M.2 Nvme SSD. Enermax RGB CPU Liquid Cooler.(Still waiting on Evga RTX 3080 Video)

8 minutes ago, Pete S said:

Thanks Bob. I was just checking the 9800x3d out, and you convinced me to save on the CPU. I may also trim the memory to 32GB. I love Avsim and the cogent advice I get here. Do you think the 5070Ti will run the sim okay?

The 5070Ti should work just fine with any mainstream single-monitor display configuration.  Something like 4K at high frame rates or VR might be pushing the limits, but otherwise it should do well.  It's equivalent to a 4080 Super in performance.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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👍 Thank you.

Pete S.

10th gen CPU I7-10700K, MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Edge MB, RAM 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB-DDR4 3600, 

2X 1TB Sabrent Rocket Q M.2 Nvme SSD. Enermax RGB CPU Liquid Cooler.(Still waiting on Evga RTX 3080 Video)

  • 2 weeks later...
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The prices on 7 9800x3d are all over the place. I ordered one on Amazon for $499, but it won't be here for a couple more weeks. It's coming from a third-party vendor from China. I'm starting to see them for $489 everywhere and even as low as $439 on Amazon with a delivery date in early June. I'm not too sure of the vendor that I ordered from, he has some low reviews, but as long as Amazon backs the sale, I should be okay. We'll see.

Edited by Pete S

Pete S.

10th gen CPU I7-10700K, MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Edge MB, RAM 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB-DDR4 3600, 

2X 1TB Sabrent Rocket Q M.2 Nvme SSD. Enermax RGB CPU Liquid Cooler.(Still waiting on Evga RTX 3080 Video)

  • 3 weeks later...
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Well, it looks like getting my 7 9800X3D is becoming a problem. After waiting for a month to receive the Processor from Amazon, the vendor is no longer available, and the sale has been passed on to another vendor that is also a third-party.

I got tired of it all and requested a refund so that I could order it from a local vendor. Meanwhile, the price is coming down! Hopefully, I'll get my build done soon, I just need the CPU!

Starting to get frustrated looking at the box full of components waiting for the build.

Edited by Pete S

Pete S.

10th gen CPU I7-10700K, MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Edge MB, RAM 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB-DDR4 3600, 

2X 1TB Sabrent Rocket Q M.2 Nvme SSD. Enermax RGB CPU Liquid Cooler.(Still waiting on Evga RTX 3080 Video)

  • 1 month later...
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Ive put together at least 15 systems, mostly Intel CPU's. This has been my most challenging build yet, mainly due a to a defective MSI 5070 TI. The AMD 9800x3D finally came in. I decided on Gigabyte Aorus x800 Elite WIFI 7 Motherboard, 32GB RAM and a 2TB Samsung 9800 nvme. Had to return the MB because of some problems with BIOS, but I think I have it all resolved except for the GPU, that hopefully I'll have back soon! I should have the new system put together tomorrow, so I can download the FS2024, although I won't attemt to run it with the on-board graphics. It's like I said, this was my most challenging PC build ever, if anthing could go wrong, it did.

Pete S.

10th gen CPU I7-10700K, MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Edge MB, RAM 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB-DDR4 3600, 

2X 1TB Sabrent Rocket Q M.2 Nvme SSD. Enermax RGB CPU Liquid Cooler.(Still waiting on Evga RTX 3080 Video)

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Well, I finally found some time to put my new system together: 

Here's what I got to mount into my pre-existing be quiet case with 850Watt GameMax power supply (Love that case).

Gigabyte Aorus X870 Elite WiFi7 Motherboard

AMD 9800X3D CPU

64GB of GSkill 6000 DDR5 Ram ( I thought I bought 32GB but it was 64GB ) 

 Samsung 990 EVO 2TB PCIe 5X4 NVMe Drive. not the fastest,but I think it'll do

Thermalright Liquid cooler

Still waiting on my MSI nVidia 5070TI to come back from MSI.

Not the fastest system, didn't want to go overboard, but should be enough to run FS2024 nicely.

 

 

Pete S.

10th gen CPU I7-10700K, MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Edge MB, RAM 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB-DDR4 3600, 

2X 1TB Sabrent Rocket Q M.2 Nvme SSD. Enermax RGB CPU Liquid Cooler.(Still waiting on Evga RTX 3080 Video)

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