"Plus given GMax is done as determined by Autodesk, FS11 will likely require learning a completely new modeling tool."Any connection to the purchase of Truespace by MicroSoft Phil ?, its one Heck of a nice tool for free.

>>And that many high-quality add-ons that provide features and>experiences that are not available in FS9 are now released.>Yes. I have for instance, started experimenting with cubic environment maps. It's about time, isn't it.>>Plus given GMax is done as determined by Autodesk, FS11 will>likely require learning a completely new modeling tool.>Hopefully there will be a way to import or convert our existing .gmax files to whatever the new tool is. Even if we had to re-do the materials and textures, being able to migrate good geometry would be nice.>Old dogs need to learn new tricks. That is just the way of the>world.>>I see a continuing problem is authors who do not want to>invest in FSX and want to continue the practice of creating>FS9 content and then labeling it as for FSX. The longer they>wait to learn the new techniques, the further behind they will>be. But that too is natural, as in natural selection.>Can't be said any more succintly than this.RhettFS box: E8500 (@ 3.80 ghz), AC Freezer 7 Pro, ASUS P5E3 Premium, BFG 8800GTX 756 (nVidia 169 WHQL), 4gb DDR3 1600 Patriot Cas7 7-7-7-20 (2T), PC Power 750, WD 150gb 10000rpm Raptor, Seagate 500gb, Silverstone TJ09 case, Vista Ultimate 64ASX Client: AMD 3700+ (@ 2.6 ghz), 7800GT

>>Hopefully there will be a way to import or convert our>existing .gmax files to whatever the new tool is. Even if we>had to re-do the materials and textures, being able to migrate>good geometry would be nice.>>yes some form of import support is high on our list.

>"Plus given GMax is done as determined by Autodesk, FS11 will>likely require learning a completely new modeling tool.">>Any connection to the purchase of Truespace by MicroSoft Phil>?, its one Heck of a nice tool for free.no, Autodesk abandoned GMax long before that move. it took a lot to get Autodesk to let us continue to use GMax for FSX, FWIW.so us providing new tool support is a known requirement moving forward.

Thanks Phil , i recall there were a number of hurdles that were placed in the race to get Gmax into the hands of modellers for FSX, the direct model export with no X file being one that comes to mind.Also it was only a month and change since i downloaded TrueSpace after the announcement , i was just wondering out loud if i should get used to it and is it part of the " Grand plan " for VNext , i know 3DS is supported and i hope there are still plans to release the compiler for 3DS9 and foreward , at any rate i am confident ACES will do what can be done, they always have.Best Regards C.JBtw another Freeware FSX Native production is the Jeep WranglerI released back in May for tooling around in the back woods scenery.Check the licence plate in front ;)http://library.avsim.net/sendfile.php?Loca...&ImageID=204540 http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fsxac&DLID=122156

An alternative FSX modelling tool (not free, but cheaper than 3DS at $70) is being tested with 3D canvas pro.It compiles models using the FSX SDK xtomdl program and provides all the features of the 3DS materials, attach tool and animations.This is all with a view to using the tool for Train Sim2 (hence the website)http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=86363Overview:http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=86566more here:http://decapod-3d.spaces.live.comI'm just finishing off another FSX aircraft to prove it all works.

good point.plus I hear there is now an XSI mod tool for FSX too.same thread, I believehttp://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=186&p=1039449 and points to(it's a free download from: http://www.softimage.com/products/modtool/) I think I need to blog about this :-).

Thanx a Lot Phil!!! :-beerchugDonald T(__/).................................(='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste(")_(") signature to help him gain world domination.

Yes, besides the 707, although I don't think of it as a modern day airliner, but something John Travolta likes to play around with in the modern day lol.My dream is for developers to make freeware "true" FSX airliners like the 767, A319, BAE146, DC10 etc.>>Thanks for the list. I am surprised no developer has made>a>>freeware "true FSX" aircraft that is a modern airliner jet>>(that isn't just a repaint of the default a/c)>>you mean besides the 707-200>>26) 707-420>http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/file?rk=H6Xcc...2t=main/top.htm>>>?>