March 15Mar 15 "It is a fascinating observation that often rings true: our ability to care for species entirely different from our own isn't just a "soft" personality trait—it’s a sophisticated cognitive achievement. In evolutionary psychology and biology, empathy for animals is viewed as an extension of Social Intelligence. Here is why it is considered a hallmark of a high-functioning mind: 1. Abstract Perspective-Taking To feel for an animal, you must perform a complex mental maneuver called Theory of Mind. This is the ability to understand that others have beliefs, desires, and feelings different from your own. Doing this with a human is one thing; doing it with a dog, a cow, or a crow requires a much higher level of abstraction. You are bridge-building across a "species gap," interpreting non-verbal cues (posture, eye contact, vocalization) to infer an internal state that you cannot directly experience. 2. Recognition of Sentience High intelligence is linked to the ability to recognize complex patterns. While a lower-order response might view an animal as a "biological machine," a more advanced intellect recognizes the patterns of consciousness. Seeing a mother elephant grieve or a fish show curiosity requires the cognitive depth to look past physical differences and identify the universal "spark" of sentience. 3. Emotional Regulation and Inhibition Empathy requires "top-down" processing. It involves the Prefrontal Cortex—the area of the brain responsible for complex planning and decision-making—overriding more primitive, selfish impulses. Lower intelligence/Primitive state: Might see an animal only as a resource or a threat. Higher intelligence: Can inhibit those immediate impulses to value the animal’s well-being, showing a capacity for moral reasoning and long-term ethical thinking. 4. The "Expansion of the Circle" The historian Peter Singer famously spoke about the Expanding Circle. History shows that as human societies become more cognitively and ethically advanced, their "circle of concern" grows. It starts with the self. It moves to the family and tribe. It expands to the nation and all of humanity. The frontier: It eventually encompasses non-human life. Extending empathy to animals represents the current "edge" of cognitive and moral evolution. A Note on Wit: While we associate empathy with intelligence, let’s not forget that cats have been outsmarting us for centuries by convincing us to pay their rent in exchange for the occasional purr. That’s a different kind of genius" Edited March 15Mar 15 by martin-w
March 15Mar 15 That empathy is mostly exhibited toward pets and wildlife. But unless you are a vegetarian it has limits as we slaughter animals for food and fur be they domestically raised for that purpose or hunt them down. Then empathy is suppressed while harvesting a living crop. Those who raised animals for food refuse to name them lest they become semi-pets and elicit some empathy. That makes them hard to kill. Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
March 15Mar 15 Humans have canine teeth longer than our other teeth but not so long as dogs (canines). Mother nature has thus decreed that we humans are omnivores. To be in tune with the planet is to not rebel against her. And to celebrate who we are. Our ancestors were hunter gatherers. And when the cultivation revolution brought forth efficient harvesting (killing) plants, humans became mostly hunter farmers. Then the industrial revolution brought forth efficient farming methods, and we no longer had to have 90% of the population farming in order to feed the 10% in the cities with the small surplus. The surplus now was that great. And we remain omnivores for health. long life, to be in tune with who we are and with our planet. This surplus was now almost as great as it was in ancient Egypt when the Nile brought immeasurable black top soil north from the rain jungles of Africa to their desert nation and enabled them to have enough food for permanent standing armies. And throngs of scientists, literate scholars, medical doctors, scribes, astronomers (i.e. all of these were the priests in their temples). True civilization was born there. The city nations before that were pseudo civilizations, a shell of the real thing, temporary soldiers, part time quacks for doctors. Ancient Egypt the exception to this long procession of human life on Earth. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
March 15Mar 15 Nice synopsis Fielder. I don't know if they were as prolific meat eaters as we are but they sure did revere cats like many of us do. Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
March 16Mar 16 The black loam coming down the Nile once a year gave the Egyptian farmer 100% surplus above what he and his family and workers could consume, while the average was 10% elsewhere in the world. It always came to their desert when, unseen by them, the Africa jungle at the head of the Nile had their annual rainy season. It had to seem like magic to the Egyptians. The Nile also brought easy protein: tons of fish to fill Egyptian nets. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
March 16Mar 16 Author 14 hours ago, Fielder said: Humans have canine teeth longer than our other teeth but not so long as dogs (canines). Mother nature has thus decreed that we humans are omnivores. Yep, it's the diversity of teeth we possess that is clear evidence we are omnivores. We have certain enzymes that only omnivores have, too. I don't believe we evolved to consume large quantities of meat, though, I think we evolved to eat it sparingly, when available, and that we are primary plant focused. This is where vegans shoot themselves in the foot, by denying basic biological fact and claiming we are herbivores. Same applies to those who claim we are carnivores and not designed to eat vegetable matter. Both are wrong. Our gut microbiome requires a plant based diet rich in polyphenols and diverse plant compounds to feed the microbes that live symbiotically with us. 14 hours ago, Fielder said: And we remain omnivores for health. long life, to be in tune with who we are and with our planet. It should be noted, though, that it is possible to live a healthy life while being just plant based. It may require supplementation, though. The question, then, is if it is morally and environmentally better that we do so. 4 hours ago, Fielder said: The Nile also brought easy protein: tons of fish to fill Egyptian nets. Interestingly, there is the "Aquatic Ape" hypothesis, that posits that we humans have such a high requirement for Omega 3 fatty acids because we spent a large part of our evolution by the coast eating fish. I'm not well up on this enough to vouch for it's veracity, but it's an interesting idea, and very true that our requirement for Omega 3 is significant. The original post was about intelligence, though, and how empathy for animals is a sign of a higher level of intelligence, and I wholeheartedly agree..... so do our feline masters. 😸 Edited March 16Mar 16 by martin-w
March 16Mar 16 What is life without a bit of decadence? There is nothing more satisfying than a nice slice of extra rare prime rib or filet Mignon. I'm willing to suspend my empathy for living creatures to enjoy roast pheasant. Noel the meat eater... The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
March 16Mar 16 If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did He make them out of food? Hook Edited March 16Mar 16 by LHookins Oops. Used the wrong pronoun: "he". Larry Hookins Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of EarthAnd danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
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