So, with Learjet35 loaded on tarmac in msfs2024... the fsw binding app starts to load up and just quits at some point while loading, before it ever gets beyond the splash screen.

Is this a known issue?

Edited April 24Apr 24 by hangar

20 hours ago, hangar said:

So, with Learjet35 loaded on tarmac in msfs2024... the fsw binding app starts to load up and just quits at some point while loading, before it ever gets beyond the splash screen.

Make sure the app hasn't just minimized to the task bar. That's what happens in my case.

Al

Edited April 25Apr 25 by ark

24 minutes ago, ark said:

Make sure the app hasn't just minimized to the task bar. That's what happens in my case.

Al

thanks but no, that wasn't it 😞

I found a work around to getting it to finally run. As soon as the app's splash screen appears upon loading, I immediately start a 2nd instance of it (so now I have 2 instances of the app trying to load simultaneously). Doing this somehow allows one of the instances to successfully load, while the other instance crashes out. So I'm left with a single running instance of the app.

Never seen this behavior in any app before. No help by the developer, btw, who seemed to not even know what his own distributed notes say about running the app, very weird (maybe he's using AI responses? who knows).

Edited April 25Apr 25 by hangar

2 hours ago, hangar said:

Never seen this behavior in any app before. No help by the developer, btw, who seemed to not even know what his own distributed notes say about running the app,

Make sure you have the latest version of the binding app, ver 1.6 (shows in lower right corner). There must be 1000s of Lear owners using this binding script successfully, really strange you are having this problem. When you contacted the developer what did he say?

Al

 

3 hours ago, ark said:

Make sure you have the latest version of the binding app, ver 1.6 (shows in lower right corner). There must be 1000s of Lear owners using this binding script successfully, really strange you are having this problem. When you contacted the developer what did he say?

Al

 

Yep, it is 1.6 alright...dunno what to say or what to think, but at least I found a way to get it working for me.
After creating a ticket with the developer all he said was that he knows someone else with the same issue and that I should report it as a bug over on Discord (but I don't do 3rd party support apps, period). That was the end of support, for me.

I DID ask for a refund last nite, because at that point I hadn't found a way yet to make it run for me and, even though I asked, he didn't offer any solutions other than reporting it on Discord...but of course I never heard back after that request. I had just made the purchase the day before.

Edited April 25Apr 25 by hangar

4 hours ago, hangar said:

but I don't do 3rd party support apps, period

It's only an app if you install it on your pc. You can just use Discord on your browser just like Avsim. Here is the link. Then once you report and I get notified I can direct message you so we can get more info on your issue. So far hundreds of users have no problems but you and one other. Interesting you got it to work by opening again while the first one loads. i have a few tests we can try and have you run a debugger tool. Hope we see you soon!
https://discord.gg/kc2HhPay

Edited April 26Apr 26 by Flysimware

11 hours ago, Flysimware said:

It's only an app if you install it on your pc. You can just use Discord on your browser just like Avsim. Here is the link. Then once you report and I get notified I can direct message you so we can get more info on your issue. So far hundreds of users have no problems but you and one other. Interesting you got it to work by opening again while the first one loads. i have a few tests we can try and have you run a debugger tool. Hope we see you soon!
https://discord.gg/kc2HhPay

Not everyone is willing to use Discord, it's an unprofessional environment to begin with, a security risk for your personal information and also your pc and aside from all that I just do not appreciate when people use it as their only choice of support for customers who they're doing business with. I'm not comfortable with it. There are other ways to offer real time support, if that's what you're offering.

Edited April 26Apr 26 by hangar

On 4/25/2026 at 5:47 AM, hangar said:

I found a work around to getting it to finally run. As soon as the app's splash screen appears upon loading, I immediately start a 2nd instance of it (so now I have 2 instances of the app trying to load simultaneously). Doing this somehow allows one of the instances to successfully load, while the other instance crashes out. So I'm left with a single running instance of the app.

Never seen this behavior in any app before. No help by the developer, btw, who seemed to not even know what his own distributed notes say about running the app, very weird (maybe he's using AI responses? who knows).

Haven’t had a problem here.

Sounds like your antivirus is interfering or the install went bad.

In re your antipathy towards Discord, I say, “Too Bad”. 

And I say that as a guy who doesn’t even LIKE Discord.

When I use it, I always use the web browser for access. I’ve never even had it installed. And when I’ve occasionally needed it for support from several developers, it’s been fine - even to an old geezer like me 😁🤙

After all, it’s not like FSW is telling you to send a letter or make a phone call 🤣

49 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

or the install went bad

There is no installation process, other than copy/pasting a folder manually.

50 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

re your antipathy towards Discord, I say, “Too Bad”

Sounds like you'd make the perfect FSW employee!

7 hours ago, hangar said:

Not everyone is willing to use Discord, it's an unprofessional environment to begin with, a security risk for your personal information and also your pc and aside from all that I just do not appreciate when people use it as their only choice of support for customers who they're doing business with. I'm not comfortable with it. There are other ways to offer real time support, if that's what you're offering.

Discord was provided as one option when we asked you to open a bug report there, but that did not mean it was your only option. You could have replied back by email at any time to let us know you preferred not to use Discord, and we would have continued assisting you there or directed you to AVSIM. We offer three support channels: email through our store, AVSIM, and Discord. We do not provide only one support method.

You were always free to reply by email if you preferred not to use Discord. Since you chose to come here to AVSIM, that is perfectly fine—this is exactly what this support channel is for.

Also, Discord does not require installing an app. It can be used directly in a web browser, just like AVSIM, and does not require any more personal information than signing up for a typical forum account.

Right now, we are working with two other users experiencing the same issue. What we are seeing so far is that the software is running in the background, but the window is not immediately visible. In some cases it may be minimized on the taskbar, and in others it may be in the system tray. Please check both the taskbar and the hidden icons area (bottom-right arrow) to see if it is there and restore the window.

We are actively investigating why this is happening and will report back here on AVSIM once we have a confirmed answer and fix. Feel free to continue the conversation in this post.

19 minutes ago, Flysimware said:

You were always free to reply by email if you preferred not to use Discord

I did indeed reply a couple of time via email, with no further replies or instructions coming from you after I had explained I don't do the Discord thing. You never offered other options until just now. So fine, at least I've got your interest now (hats off to the Avsim folks).

 

19 minutes ago, Flysimware said:

What we are seeing so far is that the software is running in the background, but the window is not immediately visible. In some cases it may be minimized on the taskbar, and in others it may be in the system tray.

I can assure you this is not the case in my particular situation, as I have already indicated in the 3rd post within this thread. I did check for that already just in case it was so...but found no exe running at all in Task Manager for the app and therefore no hidden window either. That would have been too simple, I know 🙂

In my case the app is actually being terminated early, for some odd reason, before it's main window has a chance to initialize. I have already tried repairing all my C++ runtimes as well, just in case but that didn't help. I was also suspect of the antivirus but I have tried to add the app as an exception but this hasn't helped either...I use Esset Smart Security Premium and there are several places you can add exceptions. I's always possible I missed one but I have searched around pretty good and added the app as exception everywhere I could see possible to do so.

I will continue to investigate further, but if you have any ideas, please let me know and I'll try.

Edited April 26Apr 26 by hangar

On 4/26/2026 at 1:32 PM, hangar said:

I did indeed reply a couple of time via email

We only received your original email and nothing else.

If it's not running in the taskbar or does briefly then shuts off then something on your pc is causing this as we have hundreds or thousands with no issues. So at this point we still have no answer. If you do solve why it closes please let us know as it seems you and the other two users all probably have something in common.

Edited April 29Apr 29 by Flysimware