The quality of the ortho may have been set low on purpose to focus on the autogen.

7 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

The quality of the ortho may have been set low on purpose to focus on the autogen.

You would think they would want to show off the new overall look of the new addition and not downgrade anything.

On 5/2/2026 at 6:13 PM, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

If SimHaven sells on their website as well, I will be hurting no one. Has nothing to do with who is getting hurt, it's about principle! 

I have just seen a post about this - the new Pro version will be at the Org Store. The older versions will be on the SimHeaven site.

I find it hard to believe you will not buy this massively updated version out of principle.

I sure wish he would bring it on. I enjoy beautiful scenery with ME and land at a jungle village air strip on the San Juan river in Nicaragua and the airstrip is surrounded with Cape Cod style homes you see in suburban USA. Immersion killer maximum strength.

3 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I have just seen a post about this - the new Pro version will be at the Org Store. The older versions will be on the SimHeaven site.

I find it hard to believe you will not buy this massively updated version out of principle.

Nope!!! I will "NOT" put "ONE PENNY" in Nick's pocket!!! Maybe some day they will offer it on the x-plane marketplace, then I will purchase!

Note for For Simhaven, I'm not the only one that refuses to deal with Nick! You may want to find more than one avenue to sell your product!

Edited 11 hours ago11 hr by Mike_CFII_MEL

10 minutes ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

Nope!!! I will "NOT" put "ONE PENNY" in Nick's pocket!!! Maybe some day they will offer it on the x-plane marketplace, then I will purchase!

Note for For Simhaven, I'm not the only one that refuses to deal with Nick! You may want to find more3 than one avenue to sell your product!

I have no idea what your issue is, but the SimHeaven Pro looks amazing, so to miss out on such a product seems the definition of 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'.

5 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I have no idea what your issue is, but the SimHeaven Pro looks amazing, so to miss out on such a product seems the definition of 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'.

I'm cutting off nothing, I still get to fly X-Plane 12 for my night (won't see the scenery anyway) flights and MS2024 for my day flights. If and or when SimHaven has the product available on the market place, then maybe a move to X-Plane 12 to full time may happen with their scenery, until then I'll continue to enjoy both platforms.

Seems to me SimHaven (knowing numerous people have issues with Nick - I'm NOT the only one not buying there) are cutting off incoming cash in spite of their company.

Edited 11 hours ago11 hr by Mike_CFII_MEL

2 hours ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

I still get to fly X-Plane 12 for my night (won't see the scenery anyway) flights

So the Org store itself is a convenient pretext seeing as you don't need the product anyway.

7 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

So the Org store itself is a convenient pretext seeing as you don't need the product anyway.

No flight simmer "needs" the product, but I as well as many others want it! Although I can run MS2024 and XP12 easily with my flight deck, I'd rather not have to maintain two base platforms! But I won't sell out my principles just for an X-Plane 12 addon... and make no mistake, it's not just this product from the org I won't purchase... I won't buy any products from them!

The X-Plane storefront can't get here soon enough and I hope to see SimHaven included, if so... it's an instant purchase!

Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by Mike_CFII_MEL

I strongly object to this thread being hijacked and taken off-topic by people arguing about a retail outlet. I hope the moderators put a stop to it, PDQ.