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P3D v5 CTD flying into KMIA - FSLabs Concorde

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Hi All,

First CTD since I came back from my sim hiatus, I have done a google and can't seem to find many instances of this particular error code, so I thought I would post in case it rings a bell to anyone:

Faulting application name: Prepar3D.exe, version: 5.4.9.28482, time stamp: 0x6463925f
Faulting module name: mso20win32client.dll, version: 16.0.5023.1000, time stamp: 0x69e51f53
Exception code: 0x01483052
Fault offset: 0x000000000043a82d
Faulting process id: 0x5078
Faulting application start time: 0x1DCDBA6930D324B
Faulting application path: E:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5\Prepar3D.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Office16\mso20win32client.dll
Report Id: efabe954-9310-407a-bbff-d903111c75d7
Faulting package full name: 
Faulting package-relative application ID: 

Happened when I was around 20nm from MIA and the scenery was loading in - it may well be a VRAM issue given the LVFR scenery is rather intensive, though previously I did not get any error message at all when I had VRAM-related CTDs. Also that the fauling module is connected to MS Office makes me wonder if it is connected to something else (I previously had a series of CTDs caused by this module that traced back to a demo-module of FS2Crew). Previously my sim has been rock-solid aside from previous VRAM issues, but I wouldn't put it past Microsoft managing to break something again...

Unfortunately I did not have FSUIPC autosave turned on, so I will need to repeat the entire flight to reproduce (which I don't have much free time for these days).

Give a shout if any ideas!

PUT In the UK.

AMD Ryzen 5 5600x & Radeon RX6700XT. Prepar3Dv5 @1080p

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Can confirm this was just a VRAM exhaustion issue - managed the landing this time though!

PUT In the UK.

AMD Ryzen 5 5600x & Radeon RX6700XT. Prepar3Dv5 @1080p

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@SimeonWilbury, only saw this post today. If you have the LatinVFR Miami it's one of the most demanding airports I have. But a 4090 card ensures I have sufficient VRAM. I've had many successful flights into Miami.

What card do you have?

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

@SimeonWilbury, only saw this post today. If you have the LatinVFR Miami it's one of the most demanding airports I have. But a 4090 card ensures I have sufficient VRAM. I've had many successful flights into Miami.

What card do you have?

I switched to a second hand Radeon RX6700XT recently - 12gb VRAM but as it turns out, LVFR KMIA is still rather demanding!

Turns out my settings were not particularly optimal however - dropping my texture resolution to Medium seems to have resolved the issue (seemingly without too much lost in graphical fidelity). So I think as long as I keep it there I won't have any VRAM issues going forward.

I did however then get a Terrain.dll CTD today on hitting the acceleration point out of IAD on the return leg to London - may be that I've been fiddling with my settings too much and will need to rebuild my p3d.cfg, but thankfully having turned on FSUIPC autosave I was able to reload to a few minutes earlier and carry on the flight without any further issues (so far).

Edited by SimeonWilbury

PUT In the UK.

AMD Ryzen 5 5600x & Radeon RX6700XT. Prepar3Dv5 @1080p

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From memory KMIA consumes around 12Gb of VRAM with textures set to High. I was getting some CTDs with it set higher. Medium will be fine.

I wouldn’t touch your settings as terrain.dll crashes are unlikely to be related to a particular point in the sim. I was getting it over Lincolnshire enroute to Schiphol from Manchester. Don’t get them now but the scenery is unchanged. Something else is responsible.

 

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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The terrain.dll CTD is probably one of the only non-VRAM related CTDs I've had for some time, so for now I will leave things as they are for now and hopefully will just have been an intermittent issue.

PUT In the UK.

AMD Ryzen 5 5600x & Radeon RX6700XT. Prepar3Dv5 @1080p

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Another terrain.dll CTD this evening. This time over the Atlantic near Halifax.

This has been happening since I raised the amount of autogen in my settings, so perhaps I need to knock that down again - that is all I can really think of at present, as it appears to be completely unrelated to where the aircraft actually is

PUT In the UK.

AMD Ryzen 5 5600x & Radeon RX6700XT. Prepar3Dv5 @1080p

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What setting do you have for the three autogen entries? Mine are Medium, Normal and Sparse. No terrain.dll CTDs.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

What setting do you have for the three autogen entries? Mine are Medium, Normal and Sparse. No terrain.dll CTDs.

I knocked them up to high & extremely dense when I was experimenting with my settings - kept it as I was still getting pretty decent FPS (at 1080p), in retrospect that was probably a mistake. From what I read it is one of more more common causes of the terrain.dll CTDs so it is possible I was flying too close to the sun with my current settings.

For the current fight I have knocked them down to high & very dense. If still a CTD then I'll go back to Medium & Very Dense, which is roughly what I had before - if I still have crashes after that then it may not be an autogen issue.

PUT In the UK.

AMD Ryzen 5 5600x & Radeon RX6700XT. Prepar3Dv5 @1080p

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1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

What setting do you have for the three autogen entries? Mine are Medium, Normal and Sparse. No terrain.dll CTDs.

Even with mine (1080, 8gb), I can fly into Miami with autogen on Medium, sparse and sparse. Texture medium and shadows minimised as far as possible.

Intel i7 6700K @4.3. 32gb Gskill 3200 RAM. Z170x Gigabyte m/b. 28" LG HD monitor. Win 10 Home. 500g Samsung 960 as Windows home. 1 Gb Mushkin SSD for P3D. GTX 1080 8gb.

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I do suspect I overestimated what my current card can do (albeit it can definitely do more than the old one). Hopefully it will just be a case of gradually adjusting over time until I get a good balance between graphical fidelity and performance/ stability.

PUT In the UK.

AMD Ryzen 5 5600x & Radeon RX6700XT. Prepar3Dv5 @1080p

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1 hour ago, SimeonWilbury said:

For the current fight I have knocked them down to high & very dense

Without knowing your system it's hard to judge. But given the huge system demands Concorde places on it I keep my Autogen settings well down as I prefer to have more AIG aircraft at airports. And I'm running in 4K.

50 minutes ago, IanHarrison said:

Even with mine (1080, 8gb), I can fly into Miami with autogen on Medium, sparse and sparse. Texture medium and shadows minimised as far as possible.

Autogen places demands on the CPU and with Concorde it's a huge eater of resources. I'm happy to sacrifice buildings for higher fps even with a 4090 and a 13900K CPU. Lossless Generation is a huge asset doubling my fps too.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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14 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Without knowing your system it's hard to judge. But given the huge system demands Concorde places on it I keep my Autogen settings well down as I prefer to have more AIG aircraft at airports. And I'm running in 4K.

I don't use AI traffic (less queuing!), so I may have a bit more wriggle-room in that respect hopefully. I do like autogen to be as high as I can get away with - I did turn it down a lot with my old GPU to try and keep my framerate up around Heathrow. On my current card FPS is less of an issue - but it seems it does seem to need some more balancing for stability potentially.

PUT In the UK.

AMD Ryzen 5 5600x & Radeon RX6700XT. Prepar3Dv5 @1080p

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@SimeonWilbury, it’s all about balancing those sliders to get what’s best for you. Are you using Steam’s Lossless Generation app?

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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10 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Are you using Steam’s Lossless Generation app?

Not currently, I might give a try possibly, although again FPS isn't much of a concern for me currently. I may possibly try FSR which I understand has a similar overall effect.

Unfortunately I have now had another CTD at what seems to be exactly the same position (near Halifax), which is worrying - this time the faulting module is VCRUNTIME140.dll.

Edited by SimeonWilbury

PUT In the UK.

AMD Ryzen 5 5600x & Radeon RX6700XT. Prepar3Dv5 @1080p

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