@LRBS Just ignore him. He once was daft enough to exclaim that he refuses to believe that pilots use their home simulator for procedural training and when pointed out that this is indeed good enough, he questioned either their abilities or sanity.

Thinks himself an expert on how pilots work. Or rather should work.

1 hour ago, LRBS said:

Calling someone “totally obsessed” because they notice and report an operational inaccuracy is not a rebuttal. It is a personal attack and an attempt to dismiss the discussion rather than engage with it. If you disagree with the technical point, then explain why it is correct—not why the person who noticed it is supposedly obsessed.

Nobody is claiming that a simulator can reproduce the smell of an aircraft, the physical forces on your body, turbulence through the seat, or every sound and sensation of real flight. That is an absurd comparison and completely beside the point. We are discussing the accuracy of the things the simulator is actually designed to simulate.

Ad Hominem has become the response of choice for many Avsim members in the past 5-10 years or so. I blame Covid lockdowns, 24x7 Internet connectivity via mobile device and frankly the disappearance of Critical Thinking skills. They think it better to call someone a fool or worse because they cannot provide a valid or reasonable response in rebuttal. YMMV. Blue skies,

-B

1 hour ago, LRBS said:

I find your response quite frankly insulting, and it does nothing to address the actual point being discussed.

Calling someone “totally obsessed” because they notice and report an operational inaccuracy is not a rebuttal. It is a personal attack and an attempt to dismiss the discussion rather than engage with it. If you disagree with the technical point, then explain why it is correct—not why the person who noticed it is supposedly obsessed.

Nobody is claiming that a simulator can reproduce the smell of an aircraft, the physical forces on your body, turbulence through the seat, or every sound and sensation of real flight. That is an absurd comparison and completely beside the point. We are discussing the accuracy of the things the simulator is actually designed to simulate.

An FMS either behaves correctly according to the aircraft's operational logic, or it doesn't. The fact that you consider the discrepancy “minor” does not make it correct, and it certainly doesn't justify dismissing anyone who has enough experience to recognize it.

I've already explained that my criticism is not an attack on the developer or the product. Quite the opposite: identifying shortcomings is precisely how products improve. If everything is simply dismissed with “it's a game,” then there is no meaningful reason to discuss accuracy at all.

And suggesting that I go play Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 because I pointed out an FMS discrepancy is particularly telling. It avoids the technical issue completely and turns a product discussion into a personal judgment about me.

We are perfectly entitled to disagree about how important a particular issue is. What I will not accept is being labeled “obsessed” simply because I have higher expectations for operational accuracy and am willing to point out where something is wrong.

If you want to debate the actual FMS issue, I'm happy to do that. If the response is going to be personal insults and “it's just a game,” then there really isn't much of a technical discussion left. Enjoy your lovely day.

If you call anything I say a personal insult it's impossible for me to reply. Such is the modern world. EDIT I genuinely hope that what you took as personal insults won't have a lasting and deleterious effect on your life.

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