September 15Sep 15 Basically I won't be buying another X-56, had one (three) for years but the switches aren't very reliable.I asked ChatGPT what would be a good replacement as I fly both MSFS2024 (PMDG, Fenix and Inibuilds) and DCS (A-10C, F-16 and F-18) quality and reliability matter most and I'm prepared to spend up to £1000 for a good product.ChatGPT's advice was the 'VKB Gunfighter IV Modern Combat Edition Pro' teamed up with the 'VKB STECS Standard Mk II throttle unit' totalling around £800.I haven't seen any posts of these units in the Avsim forum, looking for any thoughts.Glen Glen
September 15Sep 15 Commercial Member One thing to consider if you are spending that much - look into Force Feedback gear. It makes a huge difference. I've been using a lot of ffb gear since making FFB-Bridge, and really it does change the way you fly. A cheap FFB option is the Sidewinder v2 USB from eBay. Modern gear like Moza is excellent as well. the AB9 is really good. Note: this is my personal opinion! 9800X3d, 4090, 64 GB DDR5 6000 RAM, 4 TB NVME (2x2), 4K Ultra + FramegenI'm the developer of FFB-Bridge. https://ffb-bridge.com. Been on these forums as JonathanC for many years, so decided not to change that as you all know me!
September 16Sep 16 Author Thanks for the advice, I'll take a look at Force Feed Back something I haven't considered before.However my main priority is quality of the unit and switches/buttons, its got to be long lasting and reliable. Glen
September 16Sep 16 Moderator @GAJ52 , it’s been a long time since I used a joystick but always thought Thrustmaster was a decent company.https://www.thrustmaster.com/en-gb/products/hotas-warthog-ava-edition/ Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
September 16Sep 16 Author Hi Ray, the Thrustmaster Warthog would have been a good choice unfortunately it doesn't appear to have a twist grip for yaw and ground steering. I don't have room under my desk for rudder pedals, so a stick with a twist grip is essential. Glen
September 16Sep 16 Moderator Understood Glen. Hope you find something suitable. 👍 Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
September 17Sep 17 I had TM 1600 for several years till it started giving me problems with the rudder control, (the only bit not HallEffect}.It is still available {afaik} and DOES have twist steering. Intel i7 6700K @4.3. 32gb Gskill 3200 RAM. Z170x Gigabyte m/b. 28" LG HD monitor. Win 10 Home. 500g Samsung 960 as Windows home. 1 Gb Mushkin SSD for P3D. GTX 1080 8gb.
September 18Sep 18 Author Thanks for the advice but I'm looking for something more 'top of the range' that will hopefully last me a very long time. Glen
September 21Sep 21 I've been using the "VKB Gunfighter IV ‘Modern Combat Edition’ Ultimate" for about 18 months now. It's a full metal stick using quality components and will last a lifetime but it is very expensive.For a similar price you can get the Moza AB9 force feedback base and the plastic flightstick or spend a bit more for the metal flightstick. It's unlikely to last as long as the VKB but you might get more enjoyment out of it.
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