Spaceman3

Regional edition at Office Max, Fry's and a few other stores.

I'm kind of late to this thread, having just switched to XPX last week, but let me throw in my two cents. I'm a real world pilot who has been playing with flight simulators since I was a kid, starting with the flight simulator for the Timex SInclair 1000 and Sub Logic on the Apple 2. I have never experienced the true sensation of flying more than I have with XPlane (except for the C-5 full motion sims I used in the military). FSX is a toy in comparison. Don't get me wrong it was fine when that was all we had, and I've spent thousands of hours and dollars on it. But I think what makes Orbix chafe, is that you can pickup a cheap copy of X-Plane X for 30 bucks, load up sceneries created with G2XPL for free and have an experience that visually blows FSX/P3D out of the water, even with their expensive scenery added. There is simply no need for a company like Orbix with X-Plane and that is why they made that statement. There is no future for THEM with XPX.

I've noticed a pattern that you seem to criticize anyone who has a negative opinion of your products without also saying something nice about them. Now I've purchased add-ons from you in the past. They're so-so in my opinion. But if someone doesn't like a product, they should be frank about it without a requirement to sugar coat anything. An honest flow of information here is the only thing that keeps many of us from wasting our money on inferior products. I think it would be helpful to try and refrain from trying to censoring simmers who are giving their honest opinions. If you put out a great product, plenty of people will sing your praises and the few negative opinions will be drowned out. You shouldn't have to worry about what people say if you are confident in your work. It will speak for itself, especially since there is a money back guarantee. Couldn't agree with you more. The pits need new models and higher quality textures to be sure. This has been the case for some time. Perhaps in version 3.

Fair enough. I don't frequent this forum very often. Usually just poke in to see if MS has announced that they are cancelling Flight due to lack of revenue. But what I usually end up seeing are several threads basically complaining about people who don't like Flight and how they really should or that they expect too much. Maybe I've just hit the forum on bad days or something, but it seems like a pattern to me.

Just because Flight isn't of interest to me doesn't mean I'm not interested in where Microsoft's current half-assed attempt is heading and whether they will ever return to making flight simulators. And you can quote all the goofy made up "laws" that you like. I used to the term ###### because it seems to accurately describe a lot of the posts I've observed here. By ###### I mean someone who is fanatically devoted to the product and just can't seem to understand why others don't share their passion. If that's inaccurate, then propose another term for that type of poster rather than just citing some baloney rule and unilaterally declaring victory in an argument that doesn't actually exist.

It wouldn't have changed a thing for me as I would've ignored the game in either case because it's not a proper flight simulator. I'm a real world pilot and flight is not useful to me in the least. It's a game, not a simulator. Even for a layman that was just interested in aviation you could actually learn quite a lot about many different aspects of flying in previous versions of flight simulator. I don't see that being the case in Flight. But again, why does anyone on this board care if the majority of the simulation community reject a little flying game? Why are there so many threads with ###### trying to convince people that Flight is something that it isn't? I really don't get it.

Is that FSX or Flight?

That may be so in the short term. But when Flight fails, that position may change if they are smart enough to recognize their blunder. What I'm curious about is why the situation has to be binary. Microsoft used to have an open simulator that allowed free thrid party development AND they relased their own add-ons. If they were really worried about not having the add-on market with the last several releases, why not just go back to the model that they've already used in the past?

Well I'm not sure what people hope to accomplish by constantly whining about flight. That would be like me constantly telling Microsoft that Word is a failure because there are no virtual cockpits. Word is not intended to be a serious flight simulator and neither is Flight. So people should just ignore the title as it's not in the category of what they are looking for, and move on as I have. Actually I haven't exactly "moved on" as I've never tried Flight in the first place as I could read from the description that is is of no interest to me.

Trying to buy FS2Crew for NGX today I keep getting error Message 3005 when trying to input credit card info. Just thought you should know.

I have no idea who you are and I'm not inclined to waste any of my time proving anything to you. I run FSX with several addons (PMDG NGX is my primary aircraft of choice) and it looks great and runs great. I built the system myself and followed the advice that is easily attainable on the forums and elsewhere on the web as far as software setup goes. Since people are reporting things like blurres with Flight, I'm not even sure there is a discussion to be had on the performance issues. Sounds like with either FSX or Flight it all comes down to your individual setup and config.

Really? You have all those problems with FSX? Wow. Check the forums and you can get that fixed.I see no point in trying flight. Waste of time and hard drive space IMHO.

Doctor Strangelove

I have been inside the real thing. And yes, some cockpits might be as filthy as the one depicted by PMDG, but there are also practically brand new spotless NG's flying the line. So it simply boils down to a matter of what the end user prefers here. It's childish to suggest that any thread that does not agree with your erroneous prejudices should be locked. People are expressing a desire (and from what I see it's fairly strong among the customer base) and I'm sure PMDG want to hear that kind of feedback. Scott Cooper

This definitely seems related to saving a panel state as that's when the problem started for me too. I used the same procedures prior to creating a saved state and did not experience the bug, but once i saved the state and used that save, boom.