Bill Maher

Just checking back in to report that everything is working perfectly in a stand-alone SE installation, including all config panel settings (as reported earlier...thank you!). Combining this plane with the GTN is an almost perfect experience.

Are the FliteCharts in the new trainer updated? Just curious if there is a way to transfer those as well without a full installation (or at all).

Cool, thanks Tim. Guess they got sloppy with the feature list...and minus 10 points to me for not reading the whole thing I thought the same thing, but I think F1 has a link to the old version's installer hosted on their site now.

The description at that link still states: "The 'Lite' version of the GTN Trainer provides terrain data only for North and Central America. The full version trainer, which is included with the purchase of a GTN Series product or separately on DVD, includes worldwide terrain and integrated GDU 620 PC Trainer." So, it appears that worldwide terrain data is still not included....unless you can confirm otherwise after downloading it? It doesn't affect me as I already have current nav data and I don't fly outside of the U.S, but others might like to know. Good find, though.

Thank you! Now I just have to debate purchasing the SE version now or waiting for the P3D version. Or both. Plus which GTN 750 to buy...or both. My bank account hurts.

Since it was never made clear (in this thread...it may be somewhere in the other 5000 page thread!), will the config app work correctly if Steam is the ONLY version of FSX installed? I have P3D and FSX-SE and I'm debating on which version to purchase (eventually), but I'd like to know if the SE version is 100% (unofficially) working right now, including the config app, for a solo SE installation.

Yep, those are good videos and they explain how to determine a realistic zoom setting. For the cliffs notes version, assuming you have WideViewAspect set to True, the formula to calculate your "ideal" zoom setting is: Z = 34 _______ 2 atan(h/2d) where h is your screen height and d is your viewing distance from your eyes to your monitor. Just use the same units (inches, mm, etc) for both and Z will be your realistic zoom setting. You'll need a scientific calculator with an arctan button too. Or, just create an excel document and use the following formula to get zoom: =34/(2*DEGREES(ATAN(B3/(2*B4)))) where B3 is the screen height cell and B4 is the viewing distance cell. You'll likely find yourself zoomed in way farther than you were previously if you use the suggested setting, but this is actually the view that is most realistic for the scenery. You will not be able to see much of the VC, though, so this is the trade-off to avoid the fishbowl. For me, this means the use of pop-up 2d panels a lot since I don't have TrackIR.

You are probably zoomed out too far, as indicated above. For my setup, for example, a "realistic" calculated world view is actually in the 1.5-1.6 zoom range. If you don't like how that looks, then you'll have to put up with the fish bowl.

Confirmed....Citation Mustang a no-go even with legacy simconnect and a stand-alone installation.

Any luck Riccardo? My plans to try got derailed, but I might give it a go on my next day off of work (Wednesday) since the family is out of town and I'm playing bachelor for a week. Unless, of course, you found out that the effort was in vain and we must wait for the official update. I haven't tried installing the legacy Simconnect versions yet either, but I'm curious if that would work along with a solo install.

I'll be very interested to hear what you find out. I was planning on trying the same eventually by installing FSX-SE on my P3D-only machine. Gotta take my family to the real-world airport and run some other errands first, though.

Per their forum, the Flight1 Citation Mustang does not work. Apparently a fix is in the works.

I agree that there's nothing wrong with saying what we'd like to see someday. I have plenty that I'd like to see someday, too. As a meteorologist by education (undergrad, anyway), I'd like to see fantastic and realistic detailed weather effects. By no means should anyone be prevented from expressing their wishes, especially in an unofficial forum such as this. But I also see no harm in pointing out to someone that what they would like to see is not likely to happen any time soon for technical (or other) reasons. Perhaps I do not understand why universal updateable navdata isn't something that can be incorporated into 2.X within the current structure of the sim (I do, but let's say I don't). I appreciate it when someone knoweldgeable comes along and explains how something like that works in the current sim framework and why it's not a quick fix. As far as the OP's original point about LM's feature request forum, I also see no harm in pointing out what type of features LM will likely realistically consider now (as much as we can read their mind). But by all means, let's continue to dream! My nerdy side likes the technical limitations discussion too, though.

Ideas are great. But "absurd" ideas must be tempered with realistic expectations about what can be incorporated into a point release of an already-developed software product. Perhaps we should distinguish between what would be great to see in P3D 3.0 and beyond sometime in the more distant future vs. what we would like to see more immediately in 2.x.

I usually remain a silent lurker, but I gotta agree with Ed's point here. I don't think anyone is opposed to options, but I would rather have LM focus on features and improvements that we can enjoy now rather than dynamic tornado generation (or whatever) that we might be able to enjoy in 10 years. Truthfully, there's probably nothing left in the 2.x run that will be earth-shattering and I'm okay with that. SLI/Crossfire optimization, performance improvements, minor feature additions, and more 3rd party development would be great for me.