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There are a lot more that are the way you described it... Most airports in Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland etc. all have arrivals the neatly end up at a 10nm final or thereabouts. Just have a look in general through airports throughout Europe. I know most STARs in Lisbon put you neatly on final. The destinations I've flown into in Spain do as well. I think it is kind of the standard. Most long back and forth snakes or strange curves will be at larger airports for traffic management or due to terrain clearance issues etc.

Believe it or not, but yes, I have. For the past decade or so. I am no 'skygod' myself. And no, I am not suggesting trained airline pilots are just over reacting for the videos. More likely that they have never tried or been trained to use a smoother style of flying achieving the exact same result. I see it in part of our pilot base as well. I have flown with pilots like that, who tend to cause most of the felt turbulence themselves by over controlling. Heck, even in the videos posted by @FDEdev and yourself, I see signs of that kind of flying. It is of course hard to say and judgy if you are not there in the cockpit with them in those conditions. But for example, in the B747 landing it is on autopilot down to roughly 1000' AGL and the turbulence does not appear to get significantly worse. But compare the yoke movements by the autopilot to those of the PIC and you will see some differences. Especially a large plane like the 747 will have some inertia that you are not overcoming by split second yoke inputs in opposite directions. Same for the CRJ guy, a lot of the back and forth movements he makes on the yoke have just about zero impact on the path traveled by the plane. Anyway, apologies if I have stepped on some toes, but in my experience, the guy from the video is spot on in making his point but also clearly exaggerating for entertainment.

I see he has offended a resident YouTube pilot... I have flown a lot in gusty crosswind conditions, and never have I been moving the yoke around like I see some Youtube/social media pilots (real and otherwise) do in their videos. You may need an occasional quick and strong reaction to the wind but afterwards it is slow and steady again.

I'm not sure why half this topic is some pointless discussion about a random arrival transition in LFMN when it is supposed to be about general thoughts on the AS CRJ. Perhaps you guys can start a separate thread to really go indepth on the specifics of flying into Nice...

Yes, and I have no clue. They've been mentioned by me and other RW CRJ pilots ever since the very first version for FSX on the AS forums and also here on Avsim. I have wasted too much time listing all the issues, and with all due respect, am not going to rehash it for your benefit. Search their forums and you'll find plenty.

If you have even the slightest idea of how it works and looks like in the real world, than the AS CRJ is a disappointment. If you know nothing about the CRJ and its systems at all, it may be a fun plane to fly for variety. The small displays/fonts that were mentioned by another user earlier can definitely be attributed to the developer, as the size of fonts and placement of items on the displays is off by quite a bit. And refusal to correct it from the dev. Long standing lateral navigation issues, inability to fly holds properly, missing FMS features as mentioned by others, skin deep system simulations for some items. If I'd apply our real world procedures I'd never get off the ground as the engines overshoot target thrust settings on takeoff, which would normally be a rejected takeoff etc. I'm being a bit pedantic for sure, but it is not a great addon, and has never been. Not in FSX, not in P3D and not in MSFS. It was the ONLY option at some point, which is why it got a lot of traction. But it carried over bugs and issues from all the versions before. And updates have been slow and unimpressive. There is supposedly still a big update coming, but that is what they have been claiming for the past 12-18 months or so? No info on what the update will fix, no info on when it will appear (like this year or next year or maybe only in 2030). So, since you already have it, enjoy it if you can 🙂. For others that might see this thread thinking about getting the plane, I would spend my money elsewhere.

It started off with claims it was going to be all new and not just a port of P3D code. Only to release with exact same bugs/issues as the former P3D product. It could not fly a normal ILS to save its life on release, and the single dev working on it meant fixes were and still are extremely slow to release. So, not a great start. It lacks systems depth, they have actively refused to correct inaccuracies, made ridiculous claims about the plane not being able to do something when a bunch of real world CRJ pilots told them otherwise. Neglected to keep promises about for example updating the performance data for higher elevation fields despite being provided the data. Bugs kept being added to a magical list somewhere and threads reporting the bugs got closed saying "it's on the list". Extremely detailed bug reports, with data to reproduce the issue and suggestions on fixes just got ignored. So yeah, a combination of the addon just being a bit half-assed, slow to non-existing updates, and extremely rude "support" does not make for the greatest customer satisfaction. It has not seen an update in over a year and there are more than a few bugs still around that would cause some issues in the "normal day to day operations" that they like to simulate.

I'd imagine you are glad you spent your time testing things for yourself instead of reading all of the irrelevant bickering between posters trying to out-theorize each other. Nice work 🙂.

Geez, it's probably a quick shot that was on hand from one of the developers when they were testing the model in the sim. Instead of a pre-planned announcement screenshot. Who cares... stop making mountains out of ant hills.

Same. I am a little bit sad that this one will be the X+ with Garmin 5000 suite instead of the awesome "old school" Primus 2000. Had a lot of fun with the Eaglesoft Citation X back in P3D and FSX.

Yes, at least one of them does: https://www.airhistory.net/photo/216254/C-FWZV

This is some very flawed logic. There is rarely just one way to do things in the cockpit. If the "correct way of the real aircraft" is selecting the airway from a menu, and there is no other correct way, it should be impossible to enter airways directly in between the brackets. So that would still make the addon improperly done. More likely is that both ways are possible in the real aircraft, and it varies per operator or pilot how they use it. It is the same on my aircraft, where some people only enter direct-to's by copying the next waypoint over the current waypoint by means of the leg page, and others use the dedicated direct-to page of the FMS. Both ways work and are "correct". What might also be likely is that the ATR and the CRJ share some code, as the CRJ has a similar bug with entries in the FMS locking up the whole aircraft. I don't know, that seems like a way more likely explanation than "everyone is just using it wrong".

Hey JR! I think part of your information is outdated. The CRJ (or at least the ones I fly) has demonstrated the capability to fly RF Legs and is able to do so when coupled to GNSS as navigation source with AP on or FDs on. It also needs FMC *-28 software or later, and it should show such approaches in the FMS. Still not authorized for RNP-AR, I think this may also have something to do with the required commanded bank angle below 400' AGL. But if/when you find RF legs outside of such -AR procedures, the CRJ should able to fly them if you meet these requirements. I can not find those bank limits in any of our FCOMs or AFM on the CRJ9, it just mentions things like "1/2 bank limits to 15 degrees of roll" and "1/2 bank limits to half the normal bank limit for the selected lateral mode" which would logically lead me to 15 and 30 degrees. Just curious and wanting to find out more about it.

Black Square has its niche since no one else has been doing a steam gauge King Air, Bonanza, Baron etc. And the Asobo PC-6 is much worse than the Milviz as I understood. Plus, I believe the Asobo PC-6 was a freebie? People will mostly feel something free is worse than what they pay for. But given two payware aircraft of the same model, most people will wonder why pay more? So competition gets very hard then. And Asobo can "subsidize" a smaller or non-existant profit margin with the income of the Marketplace. Blackbird/Milviz can not.

So many people raving about the low price, but forgetting that it is only possible because it is basically sponsored by income generated from taking a cut of every Marketplace transaction. Meaning it kills competition because other developers can not compete on price and Asobo puts out an inferior product that saturates the market by low pricing. Even if Blackbird would continue now with their ATR, seeing that they could maybe do a much better job for example, most of the users just see two ATRs, one more expensive than the other, so it would be a hard sell for Blackbird. People, low price is not always good, I'm telling you.

He does make a pretty solid point in the end though. Asobo/MS made it seem like they would make a complex addon out of this by labeling it Expert Series and involving Hans Hartmann. This made developers like Blackbird/Milviz halt their ATR development due to possible market saturation. They simply can not compete on price because this Asobo version is practically sponsored by the income generated through the Marketplace. For the Expert Series to be relatively half baked in systems simulation is quite sad then. I'm sure a lot of people will enjoy it and the price is great. But it sounds like it has the same issue as the CRJ had... It may look and sound quite like the aircraft it is trying to simulate, but it definitely does not work like one, especially for those who know how it should work. And also read his post from that point of view. This guy was probably looking forward to getting a high quality rendition of the airplane they fly in the sim. And then for it to be lackluster is a crappy feeling.

Aerosoft is not involved, but it is done by the same developer who was the main, if not only developer for the CRJ. So I think it is not unreasonable to expect similar quality for the system fidelity. For me personally that means that I am likely not going to purchase this until it has had a few patches.

The RealAir version was/is one of the best and most complete simulated GA twin engined aircraft for those sims and its time, in pretty much all ways. Sound, visuals, systems, performance, flight model etc. Just a blast to fly, especially the turbine version which can quite easily be described as overpowered. Source: Wikipedia Nothing quite like blasting off from a relatively short strip somewhere and climbing out like nobody's business. Edited to add that this will be a day one buy for me, like many others I suppose. I'm having a lot of fun with the analog King Air at the moment, and it makes me think the systems side is covered for sure. If he puts the same time and effort into modeling, texturing and sounds, this will be awesome.

I mean, it has been like this since World Update 1... Launch Xbox app/Steam, update MSFS launcher if required, open game, download game update, then add the World Update to your game from Marketplace. Has been the process since WU1.

A bit offtopic, and I know this might be blasphemy to ask, but why are some of you running 4K monitors only to need to run the game at less than 1440p via render scaling? Could probably save a bunch of money going for a good 1440p monitor then.

This discussion... Complaining about this stuff like it is censorship and limiting your rights or opinions or oppressing you PERSONALLY. We are playing in someone else's house and backyard. They get to set the rules and we get to play by them, developers and customers alike. Deal with it.

I'm still waiting for their "early adopter access" phase to end before I purchase any of the 737s 😅. See if they will fulfill their stated goals/promises.

Not saying I don’t like the Dash 8, but take my post in the context of reacting to someone complaining that the dev should have done the Dash 8 instead of just enjoying another quality plane coming our way 😁. Autothrottle and VNAV are not so much the defining thing for me. It’s more the full glass, FMS style flying that is the boring part. You drop in your route, fire it up, engage nav mode and done. The more we see of more analogue planes, with basic GPS, the better IMO.

Too automated, been done before 😁. I don’t recall a high quality Dash 7 ever being done, so that’s way less boring.

Q400 is booooooring. This is way more interesting.