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Since it was a PMDG post I was expecting a lot bickering and fussing in the comments, but everyone sounds positive and happy. Good to see.

I still use fs2020 and I do use the PMDG 737 a lot so the updated 737 coming for '24 is a factor. But, I think another very big factor that has slowed the transition is the huge price tag currently for getting/building a top level computer. FS2020 runs very stable and many may want to move to '24 when they get a new computer, but are putting that off. Throughout the 90s and 2000s, it was just a no-brainer to get the latest hardware as computers advanced, but the supply issues caused by the AI craze have pushed prices to quite absurd levels for some components. I, thankfully, can afford to build a new rig which I will be doing, but I do notice the price tags and I'm sure there are many that are just not in a position to swing it. So, they stick with what is working well.

Azure problems today. Many sites/services that use that are down or sketchy.

Discord is poorly designed, but, for now, it is considered the 'cool' place for developers to actually post updates and respond to people. Any such forum is only as good as the information put into it. If developers decided that some other new site was the place to be and stopped updating Discord, people would quickly be wondering why anyone was there in the first place. Perhaps it is Discord's clunky and not easy to navigate design that helps it as it keeps many away, except for those that really need information and are willing to make the effort to find it. Even so, it tends to get annoying as well with endless threads of people posting what they had for lunch with some tid bit of useful information buried in the middle of it. Of course, more and more you have AI programs that will scrub through the sites for you to find an answer for your question. The problem with that is it tends find wrong answers along with correct answers and doesn't actually 'know' anything itself.

As humans age, eyesight and hearing continually degrade. Some of this could just be people experiencing the effects of natural aging and blaming the simulator. Only a doctor could confirm if this is actually the case for any individual though.

MS/Asobo should be very happy to keep fs2020 for the foreseeable future. It is a beautiful and very stable platform and supports many of the same aircraft and scenery as 2024 and also supports aircraft and scenery that are not compatible with fs2024. This gives them the ability to use fs2024 as a sandbox to continue development while users have a stable platform to use. Clearly, there are many that want the latest and greatest even if it is still very buggy. I'm sure that eventually 2024 will reach a decent maturity and will be the fall back for the next iteration (if FS survives to see that day). So, it is a feature, not a bug, that both platforms live side by side. It really shouldn't matter to anyone what another person chooses to use. Why would you care?

I think the people using 2024 are using for the 'career' mode. That was the big draw that everyone couldn't wait to use. They could rescue little Johnny from a cliff in helicopter and score points. At least I hope everyone is using it after all the development resources used in developing it and the promoting it as a key reason to switch over. That and being able to see a single blade of grass.

It is a bummer for those having issues after the update, I can only say it is not a universal experience. I have found fs2020 running very well and smooth after the update and the maps scenery looks much improved IMO. This isn't to gloat about it, but just to say that folks may have some issues going on with their system/software, addons not playing nicely or something.

OK, I got it. PFD Options/SVT/ toggle 'pathways'. Nice.

So, flying the 172. The 'highway in the sky' magenta rectangles are interesting and nice, but I would like the option to turn them off. I don't really want them on all the time. Haven't found how to turn them off... yet. Otherwise, all is very well after the update.

Thank you for the explanation.

The main update went quick, but a lot of content manager updates needed afterward. The release notes mention a Bing maps alignment with fs2024. I wonder what that is all about.

I kind of wish that fs2024 was more impressive than what I've see and heard as it would make the decision easier to change. I watch many videos of 2024 and it is quite nice looking, but not shockingly better to the point where I feel like I have drop everything and upgrade. I do think there is a dividing line with what people using the sim are interested in and impressed by. I suppose if I was really into going outside the plane and zooming into a blade of grass, I would be upgrading right away as I hear over and over that blades of grass look really nice in fs2024. I like the whole process of flight planning, getting the aircraft set up for flight and operating the flight itself. I realize that is boring for most new flight simmers and they really just want hyper-realistic visuals so they can wander through an airport terminal or look at blades of grass. So, it is not shocking that there are 2 main camps in the 2020 vs 2024 discussion. Neither side is wrong IMO, they just don't look at what a Flight Simulator should be the same way. Actually operating an aircraft in the sim continually moves down in priority.

Well, the number of people using fs2024 has been dropping steadily since launch, while fs2020 has remained quite steady by comparison and is increasingly the dominate platform.

You forgot the part where people say it is not Asobo's fault, it is the battery's fault. So, Asobo can't fix it and you need to replace your battery.