Sign in to follow this  
Kimchoc

I am really having a time with this software....

Recommended Posts

and i dont mean good time. I just downloaded 2 textures for the 737NG from the PMDG website. They were automatic installers. They appeared to install to the correct location on my HD. But when in the sim, nothing appears in the drop-down for the two new textures..Is this software so complicated that the developers have lost their common sense by making the installtion of textures so complicated, no one short of a scientist can install them? I've installed hundreds of planes, panels, guages, textures since Fs2K. I fugured for sure with an auto installer I would be good to go. In fact, none of the textures that I have installed from the CD show up either. I fugure when i see a message that says "sucessfully", meaning installtion, then it should work. What is the deal? If the answer here is to read through some 800 page technical "texture install" manual hidden on the PMDG website, just let me know. I have a place for this software. I've never had such a tough time using a FS product. I have been working over an hour just to get the engines started, then to find out the throttles wernt locked together for use with my X45 throttle. E-1-2 did not work to link them back up. Jesh,,,

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Help AVSIM continue to serve you!
Please donate today!

the engine problem is not PMDG related... and possibly you have the worng path for the installers? Luca

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I know how you feel. Took me 2 weeks to get those darn engines going the first time. Now it takes a minute or two.With respect to textures I never had a problem since day 1, worked flawlessly every time.I found with the C&H yoke if I used the keyboard start keys E+1 etc., my throttles became disjointed, only the left one would work. That may be part of whats happening to you?Best

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

O.K.,first don't blame the livery installers. It's very likely that the problem is your AIRCRAFT.CFG.Please have a look at the corresponding AIRCRAFT.CFG file and check if the sections fltsim.x are in sequence. They have to be numbered starting with fltsim.0, then fltsim.1, fltsim.2,...If there is a gap in the numbering (like fltsim.7, fltsim.9, fltsim.10,...), some liveries won't show up in FS.The installer finds the last number in sequence and then takes the next number.As to your second problem, that's not a PMDG problem. It's a common problem with complex aircraft.You could either delete the 'E' assignment for selecting the engine or you could assign 'E-1-2' to a key on your X45. That will work.Hope that helpsThomas

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Oh, by the way,it would help if you give us some more information.Which liveries from the PMDG site are you installing?I'm asking because two or three of the liveries on PMDG's site indeed have minor errors (like the Air Berlin Dreamliner). But these errors can be corrected in the AIRCRAFT.CFG.CheersThomas

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thomas, Your comments here are interesting.Could you please indicate how these minor errors manifest themselves in the sim. Are they visual or operational?I am having some weird problems that I have traced to the Qantas livery 738 - winglets.Any info would be appreciated.RegardsJock McIntyre (YMML)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I found them. Apparently they do not work with the 600 series. There are only 2 liveries in the drop-down selection box. Shamu the whale and the PMDG liveries I think. The drop down selction box is the one where you select the texture/liverie for the plane. I thought you guys knew that. And I told you I used the self installer. Thats pretty clear. I switched to the 700 and they were all there. Not sure where in any directions it mentions that. I havnt run across it yet anyway. Most of my time has been sorting the engine deal out.And excuse me but engine disconnect IS directly related to the software. As soon as the instructions (page37) in the manual tell you do start the engines separatley, clicking on the right throttle separates them. E-1-2 ties them back together again,(FS keys), supposedly. But in my case, did not work. Surely there is a work around and I'll find it. I beleive I can just start a cessna and then switch to the PMDG plane.Thanks for the replies,,,

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

...> I switched to the 700 and they were all there. Not sure where>in any directions it mentions that. I havnt run across it yet>anyway. Most of my time has been sorting the engine deal>out.So they installed correctly after all. You have still not said which liveries you installed, but most, if not all, are for a specific model. That is so blindingly obvious that it is not necessary to mention it.>>And excuse me but engine disconnect IS directly related to the>software. As soon as the instructions (page37) in the manual>tell you do start the engines separatley, clicking on the>right throttle separates them. E-1-2 ties them back together>again,(FS keys), supposedly. But in my case, did not work.>Surely there is a work around and I'll find it. I beleive I>can just start a cessna and then switch to the PMDG plane....If you are seperating the throttles at start up, then you are doing something wrong. You should not be touching the throttles at all.Steve

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ok I see what this forum is. Just a place to belittle people that have bought a new and complicated product. No problem. I'll go somewhere else. 1 new community member this week, 1 less this weekend. Nice job. Have a great xxxxxxx day.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

>Ok I see what this forum is. Just a place to belittle people>that have bought a new and complicated product. No problem. >I'll go somewhere else. 1 new community member this week, 1>less this weekend. Nice job.> Have a great xxxxxxx day. Come on,noone wants to belittle you. We are only trying to help. If my response sounded like bashing you...then I'm sorry.The information I wanted was provided by you in your second post. I wanted to know, which liveries seem to be the problem and you said it was the 'Shamu' livery.If I understand you correctly then the Shamu livery appears in the 737-700 list. If that's the case then you're right that it's odd. I just downloaded and installed it and everything seems correct to me.If you still want help then maybe you could post the contents of your AIRCRAFT.CFG in the 737-600 directory.And believe me, this is a fine product and this is a fine forum with friendly people willing to help.:-beerchug CheersThomas

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

>Thomas,> Your comments here are interesting.>>Could you please indicate how these minor errors manifest>themselves in the sim. Are they visual or operational?>>I am having some weird problems that I have traced to the>Qantas livery 738 - winglets.>>Any info would be appreciated.>>Regards>>Jock McIntyre (YMML) Jock,with the Air Berlin Dreamliner the aircraft will appear with blank textures as the entry for the texture in the aircraft.cfg is not correct.What kind of problems do you have with the Qantas livery?CheersThomas

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

About the throttle resync: this happens with many complex aircraft, at least to mine. There is an easy way to solve it. You can assign an 'engine resync hot key' (don't know the exact naming by heart) in the registered version of FSUIPC. Once assigned you only need to press the key/key combo and all engines react to the throttle again.Kind regards,Henk-Jan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

>I found them. Apparently they do not work with the 600>series. There are only 2 liveries in the drop-down selection>box. Shamu the whale and the PMDG liveries I think. The drop>down selction box is the one where you select the>texture/liverie for the plane. I thought you guys knew that. Ooops, sorry, my fault. I didn't read your post correctly. The Shamu livery IS actually in the 600 list. That's as it should be.So I think that my first guess is correct. There seems to be an error in the AIRCRAFT.CFG file in your 737-600 directory.Thats more a bug within FS. If the flightsim scans the 'fltsim' sections and there is a gap in the numbering sequence it simply stops scanning for thos sections and doesn't show them in the selection list.CheersThomas

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thomas, I was afraid you might ask!!I had the need (a nice need) to configure my system with CH yoke, quad throttles, and pedals - all USB.I had FS configured to boot giving me PMDG 738-winglets, Qantas livery, sitting at YMML with all lights on and the fires lit. - Lazy? Yes - I like flying this kite and I do not have much time. Patriotic? Well, I can still knock out a verse of 'I Still Call Austalia Home'!! So, all this was prior to the new shiny CH hardware and all worked well before this, at least within my capabilities.Configured the CH hardware. All went well considering the horific stories on the forums. However, on booting into FS (remember my boot setup) I was presented with blue skies/cockpit ceilings and the like - not the cockpit view of the panel and runway etc. I simply could not fly the PMDG 738 (a bit hard without a panel!!) Within the same FS session, it was possible to adjust 'views' to see a panel and fly. So, many, many hours were spent pulling apart .cfg files trying to find out, why. At least my logic would have to say it was 'hardware'. It was only out of deparation that I went to basics and let FS boot into the default Cessna. Wow, all the views were fine. Move to PMDG 738-winglets (PMDG livery) - fine. Move to PMDG 738-winglets (Qantas livery) - blue skies in the cockpit! This also tended to corrupt FS within this session.I then loaded Air Berlin livery (for 738-winglets) and this was fine. I then elected to delete the PMDG Qantas livery (I nearly cried!!) and reset up my FS boot scenario.Thomas, when your post came along speaking of some liveries that needed work, my curiosity got the best of me and I needed to ask some questions as my above experience defies all logic - well at least mine. Before writing this, I thought that I should load the Qantas livery again to be sure, to be sure. Yep, blue skies and a corrupt FS.In Summary:All of my CH equipment works and I have more buttons and axis to play with than you could dream ofPMDG 738 continues to work fantastically in all modes auto and manual using the CH hardware (given that I do not have a Qantas livery)Despite this, I can still remember at least one verse of 'I Still Call Australia Home'. Sigh, I hope the 744 Qantas livery works!!Hey Thomas, ask a simple question and get a 'confused' reply.Thanks for your input, it is appreciated.RegardsJock McIntyre (YMML) g

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

>...as my above experience defies all logic- well at least mine. ...mine too.:-( Jock, that really sounds weird!As the Qantas livery worked fine prior to installing the CH hardware, I'm pretty at a loss here. I see no link between a livery and the panel not showing, except the 'panel' entry in the AIRCRAFT.CFG, but that look O.K. to me.Just to exclude that possibility: did you check, if the 'fltsim' entries are in sequence?Anyway, I guess this is a case for the pro's...Sorry that I couldn't help you.CheersThomas

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Jock, when you say 'blue skies/cockpit ceilings and the like' do you mean it looks like the view is rolling? This used to happen to me when -for some unknown reason- the USB connection to the CH yoke got lost all of a sudden during flight. Each time this happened to me, the yoke showed up fine in XP's Control Panel, but no movement was detected. When I un-/replugged the yoke all was fine again. I solved this by installing and using the latest CH Control Manager software. I defined an FS2004 profile and load it at windows startup. No more crazy views since then. There is (to me) no logical relation between yoke software and liveries. But hey, it's worth a check!If this rotating view is not what you mean: well, useless typing this then... ;-) :+ Henk-Jan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this