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Gents - Some pics from my first autoland with the 744. Nice to see the flare and rollout mechanisms in action. Sorry about the night shots I hope you'll enjoy them never the less. :-)LAND3 on the FMA:http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/120780.jpgFLARE active and ROLLOUT armed:http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/120781.jpgSeconds before touchdown:http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/120782.jpgCheers,

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Very very nice **smiles**Looking forward to tryign a cat III in her meself when she's released.

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I knew someone would comment on that! :(I had a nice 10 knot crosswind at 3000 feet but shifted during final to an 8 knot tailwind. Still within limits though... ;-)Cheers,

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looking very good. boy is this aircraft gonna be greatdavid

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Beautiful shots, thanks for showing them! I love the wing-flex as well :(PS: "SORRY" for the night shots? It makes them look 2x better :D

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Hi Mats,nice shots and nice landing...but you did a cat III autoland with a 200 ft radio minimums setting...

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Why are so many of you fixed on finding errors???YOu could end up being the reason for less screenshots!Mats... grrrrreat shots! Nice wing flex!Boaz...

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Well said Boaz, I'm sure this a/c will be a great addition to the FS community!

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We offer screenshots to show progress, we certainly do not exclude faults in such an early beta process, no really we expect that there will be some shown. If anything we want everyone to know that we are working very hard at hammering out all the bugs, give us time and enjoy the show in the mean while...[h4]Randy J. Smith[/h4]

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An autoland does not mean you are doing a CATIII approach Autolands and coupled approaches are flown in VMC and IMC .The CAT I,II and IIIa,b,c ILS approaches are defined by the weather conditions at the airport . If you are doing an approach on visual meterological conditions as the nice shot was made you only use the radioaltimeter minimuns settings as a reference and each operator use it according to its operacion manual.

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>An autoland does not mean you are doing a CATIII approach >Autolands and coupled approaches are flown in VMC and IMC .The>CAT I,II and IIIa,b,c ILS approaches are defined by the>weather conditions at the airport . If you are doing an>approach on visual meterological conditions as the nice shot>was made you only use the radioaltimeter minimuns settings as>a reference and each operator use it according to its>operacion manual.>>>>Hello ?Please take a minute and read the forum rules. They require you to include your real name with every post.That being said, you're splitting hairs as far as Cat approaches are concerned. IRL, you can't do a CatII or CatIII approach unless the ILS is approved for such use and when down to CatII, CatIII, there are restrictions placed on taxiway holding points for departing, arriving aircraft. Since this can't be simulated in FS, I'm just fine with how the original poster described their approach and landing.Cheers,JohnBoeing 727/737 & Lockheed C-130/L-100 Mechanichttp://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/ng_driver.jpg

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>That being said, you're splitting hairs as far as Cat>approaches are concerned. IRL, you can't do a CatII or CatIII>approach unless the ILS is approved for such use and when down>to CatII, CatIII, there are restrictions placed on taxiway>holding points for departing, arriving aircraft. Since this>can't be simulated in FS, I'm just fine with how the original>poster described their approach and landing.>>Cheers,>>John>>Boeing 727/737 & Lockheed C-130/L-100 Mechanic>>http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/ng_driver.jpg**smiles** Very true -- that and in the sim -- just like in real life -- it can be practiced for skill as well. The US Air Force Academy as well as Peterson AFB (302nd Airlift Command) C-130's do it here at KPUB on a daily basis -- even Saturdays. The on ly time I do not see the skies above my head not filled with them doing all kinds of tricky stunts like that is Sundays.I talk with their pilots regularly as I ended up in touch with some of them making repaint requests when I was doing a series for the Alphasim C-130 (which sucks -- can't wait for Captain Sim to release theirs). Anyway they mentioned that they practice those levels of approaches all the time.Now what I REALLY love is when they practice almost hitting the runway, do a "go-around" into a "tight 360", practically buzzing the tower as they whip a circle and come back to touch RIGHT where they would have touched before if they had completed the landing the first time. The first time I saw that I was out there at the airport and about had a heart attack when I saw how close their wings came to the tower **laughs**:-)<> To correct my bloody spelling. ARRRR!

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Gents - I agree with Randy. We know there are faults on this aircraft. We are here to find them. I don't mind people trying to point out my own errors though. I'm experienced enough to see past that and I do have more important things going on in my life to be upset over it. ;-)That said as a member of the PMDG test pilot crew we do have a carte blanche to pretty much set-up any possible situation/combination and try it. That's why they pay the test pilots the big bucks!! :-xxrotflmao This machine is supposed to work not only during normal procedures but also when we, the users, are abusing this aircraft setting it up incorrectly and handeling it roughly. To find those non-normal situations is IMO a crucial part of beta testing.That's my opinion though. Other beta testers may think differently. So to be on the safe side you can always PM us about things you see that you think needs attention. :-)Back on the saddle again...

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Sorry About ThatIt will not happen again and I did not get your point about CAT approaches what I am talking about is autoland in any weather condition and radioaltimeter minimums setting according to the original post who thought that 200 setting was wrong and is not.Mauricio Villada Tampa Cargo Captain

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Why is CLB the active thrust limit?It should be GA...Cheers,Adrian

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We do perform autolands on CAT I runways...The weather just has to be "legal", but other than that its the skipper's call to autoland or make it manual.Adrian

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>Back on the saddle again...This aint a horse it's a Boeing 747-400, few hundred tonnes of metal. LOL :-)Great shots keep em comming. I am curious to know is Ian Riddle on the beta team ?

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Hey Adrian,Perhaps Mats selected CLB thrust limit on final? Also, should you not dial in Vref for an autoland rather than the standard Vref+5 ?Also, is there any reason for using flap25 rather than flap30 ?Cheers,PaulREQUEST : Can we see a screenshot of a limiting 25 Knot Crosswind Autoland ? Could you show the shots at around flare height so we can see the rudder kick in? Thanks! :-)

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>I knew someone would comment on that! :(>>I had a nice 10 knot crosswind at 3000 feet but shifted during>final to an 8 knot tailwind. Still within limits though...>;-)>>Cheers,Hi Mats,Within 2 kts I believe as the 'Max tailwind, autoland' speed cannot exceed 10 kts....Regards & thanks for the pic's. They are beautiful.Regards,jack

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Paul et al,No I never deliberately selected CLB and I think the reference thrust limit should change to GA either when flaps are out of UP or glideslope is captured. Good catch! :-)Yeah should probably have dialed VREF instead of VREF+5. The A/T should take care of any discrepancies. I think VREF should be dialed any time A/T is used even if A/P is disengaged.Reason for using flaps 25 was my own decision. I was lightly loaded and had a long runway to use so no need to increase the fuel bill or annoy the neighbours. :-)Cheers,

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