Is this group even still around? I suspect that they have probably gone on with life, pursuing other things. I know that happens to all of us at sometime. I know Wade periodically post here once in a blue moon, but Eric and the others I suspect have moved on. The amount of energy, time and money to develope anything for FS these days, especially when it will be heavily compared to the original, I am sure is prohibitive. Either that or they triple their development team. Its late, I was just thinking outloud here. Thanks for the read.

Rumors abound about a new product, but it seems no one has clear knowledge if this is still the case. Hell, give us a newer version of the 767 and I will be happy! Whatever they do, we can expect a quality product if not another flight sim stardard. Best Wishes,Randy J. [email protected]" A little learning is a dangerous thing"AMD XP 2100 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ] K7S5A MB |[b]GF3 64 MEG |WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19"

Mike,AFAIK Eric is still flying the 767 for AA.Laurent Just had twins a few months back and his hands are how would you say - FULL.Wade frequents the forum all the time - he is the moderator after all - it's just everyone else answers all the support questions for him. He posted a pic the other day from the mini PIC convention that was held the other day in Toronto. Several forum members including Rob Hall and Haroon Anwar met up with Wade for dinner in Toronto.The original 767 PIC took 2 years to develop. This was on top of all the previous development that had taken place with Eric's freeware panel. This is considerably longer than any other Flightsim Produt development seems to take. Average seems to be about 6 months to a year. I think it shows in the high end quality that this product delivers.LaterMark

Hi guys. I like to keep pointing out to people that PIC was never an economically viable product from the developer's perspective. It would be (and still is) unrealistic for anyone to think that they could develop a product that has PIC's depth and relatively bug-free state and still realize a reasonable economic return for the hours invested (after the distributers/marketers/retailers get their pound of flesh).Doing something like PIC is a labour of love. We are still labouring off and on, and we still plan to have a new aircraft that exceeds PIC, but no timeframe is set.Wade

Hi Wade,Glad to see that you were having a great time with the guys in Toronto. If you ever get down to the States and out to the Rocky Mountains here in Colorado, you will have dinner on a bunch of us PIC lovers.Got a very nice note from Eric last week, what a surprise. He indicated that with his AA flying and moving he has very little time on the sim.You guys did such an outstanding job on this panel that after all this time, it is still the very best damn panel in all of MSFS, BAR NONE.Take CareBob Johnson

"and we still plan to have a new aircraft that exceeds PIC, but no timeframe is set."Great - Thats what I wanted to hear :-)

"If you ever get down to the States and out to the Rocky Mountains here in Colorado, you will have dinner on a bunch of us PIC lovers."Yes Wade- you must come to the Denver area sometime and let us "mile high" PIC'ers buy you lunch!Bruce. (Boulder, CO)

>"If you ever get down to the States and out to the Rocky >Mountains here in Colorado, you will have dinner on a bunch >of us PIC lovers." >And Wade the same applies when you get down here to Melbourne, Australia.CheersIan

I'm beginning to understand why the PIC Team developed this panel.Not because of the moneyBut because of free meals / drinks all around the globe :-)Way to go!!RegardsMark

Well next time make sure to have your truth serum handy for Wade's cup for the PIC code :-spacecraft.Best Wishes,Randy J. [email protected]" A little learning is a dangerous thing"AMD XP 2100 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ] K7S5A MB |[b]GF3 64 MEG |WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19"

please have a download version for the next PIC aircraftVatin VTBD

Hi Wade,I guess this has been said before, but first of all: THANK YOU for this great sim!I was wondering, as it still is on top of things, wouldn't it make more sense to go on with PIC767 rather than create an entirely new aircraft, in terms of development time and everything? I mean, I could imagine for instance that you enhance it even further by introducing some new things like TCAS, add some overhead panel things that were left out, some FMC things. My feeling is that if you include a 757 in the package, upgrade to the upcoming FS9, it can go on to be the winner for the foreseeable future for a lesser investment than an entirely new aircraft. I'd certainly buy!Maybe you could do both :-)Leo Bakker

good point and an excellent idea. I suspect that it would acheive the 'Zulu' award with just an upgrade of what we have as you said.Good thinking, I like it!!

>Hi Wade, >>I guess this has been said before, but first of all: THANK >YOU for this great sim! >>I was wondering, as it still is on top of things, wouldn't >it make more sense to go on with PIC767 rather than create >an entirely new aircraft, in terms of development time and >everything? I mean, I could imagine for instance that you >enhance it even further by introducing some new things like >TCAS, add some overhead panel things that were left out, >some FMC things. My feeling is that if you include a 757 in >the package, upgrade to the upcoming FS9, it can go on to be >the winner for the foreseeable future for a lesser >investment than an entirely new aircraft. I'd certainly buy! >>Maybe you could do both :-) >>Leo Bakker That's a really great idea - here's what I'd want to see if they did something like this:- Add the 757 with proper FDE, FMC parameters etc- Add all three engine types: GE, P&W, and RR- Redo the glass gauges using the new smooth rendering style being done by folks like Reality XP and (soon to be) Dreamfleet.- Enhance the FMC to add in things like wind prediction and conditional/psuedo waypoints- Make interactive VC's for FS9 etcThat'd be awesome - I'd easily pay updwards of $60 or $70 for something like that.Ryan

"That'd be awesome - I'd easily pay updwards of $60 or $70 for something like that."I agree, so would I.Although more an eye candy issue, maybe some better night lighting. I was in an AWE B752 a while ago- the crew had the cockpit door open while we spent 2 hours stranded on the tarmac at LAX. It was night, and the lighting effects of the overhead and panel were incredible. If anyone wants to see a B752 cockpit lit up at night, look at the cover of the s/w package for "Airlines 2- Management Simulation". Imagine having that effect in PIC!Bruce.