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Poll - PIC SID/STAR Database

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Unscientific Poll Regarding the SID/STAR/Approaches Database that you are using for PIC.Use The REPLY with Quote function to the original message onlyQ1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA Website?Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts?Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder in FS?Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a CD?Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 Do you use the SSCopier?Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 PIC?Q7. Do you have Paper Charts?Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC?That Concludes the Poll.

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>Unscientific Poll Regarding the SID/STAR/Approaches Database >that you are using for PIC. >>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? No>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? Yes>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? No>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? CD>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? Yes>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? >Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? Yes>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? Yes>That Concludes the Poll. >

>Unscientific Poll Regarding the SID/STAR/Approaches Database >that you are using for PIC. >>Use The REPLY with Quote function to the original >message only >>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? Absolutely not. I use only the default procedures that came with the 767 PIC CD supplemented by procedures downloaded from http://www.seaartcc.org/767pic/ The site is no longer active but I have confidence that these procedures were don't correctly.>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? Occasionally.>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? Yes>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? >>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? >>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? No>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? Yes, I have access to an outdated copy of JeppView but I tend to use FSNav and FSBuild to plan routes. I check the departure and approach fixes in JeppView and fill in the rest of the route using FSBuild and verify the route using the map view in FSNav. >Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? Yes.>That Concludes the Poll. >

>Unscientific Poll Regarding the SID/STAR/Approaches Database >that you are using for PIC. >>Use The REPLY with Quote function to the original >message only >>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? yes>>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? no>>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? yes>>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? >>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? >>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? no >>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? yes >>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? yes>>That Concludes the Poll. >

>Unscientific Poll Regarding the SID/STAR/Approaches Database >that you are using for PIC. >>Use The REPLY with Quote function to the original >message only >>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? Yes>>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? No>>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? No, Only Europe and where I fly the most>>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? No, Same Folder Zipped by first letter.>>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? No>>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? Why not answer? Yes, I had perfomance problems while in the DEP/ARR page, that's why reduced the number of SID/STARS in the folder>>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? Yes, not many>>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? Yes>>That Concludes the Poll. >Cheers,George DorkofikisAthens, Greece

>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? No. But I use much of the older database from the VATSIM Seattle ARTCC.>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? Yes, when missing or in error.>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? Yes.>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC?No. I think NTFS seems to handle it just fine.>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? Some, plus online charts.>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? Yes.Lee Hetherington (KBED)

>Unscientific Poll Regarding the SID/STAR/Approaches Database >that you are using for PIC. >>Use The REPLY with Quote function to the original >message only >>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? Yes, up until now. I've been noticing that a lot of the swedish SID/STARs are erroneous so I'm reverting to the SEARTCC database which seems to be more accurate.>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? Occasionally>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? I keep them in the FMCWP folder but not in the default SID or STAR folder.>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? Yes. If you by separate folder mean any folder than the default. >Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? Yes.>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? No.>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? Yes. I try to get charts for whatever aerodrome I'm visiting>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? Yes. I think I already have. >That Concludes the Poll. >

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>Unscientific Poll Regarding the SID/STAR/Approaches Database >that you are using for PIC. >>Use The REPLY with Quote function to the original >message only >>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? >Yes>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? >Yes, the Navdata ones are not very accurate.>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? Yup>>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? >>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? >>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? Only the navdata procs are inaccurate. No performance probs.>>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? Yes I use AERAD/THALES AVIONICS aerodrome booklets exclusively.>>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? >Sure would>That Concludes the Poll. >

>Unscientific Poll Regarding the SID/STAR/Approaches Database >that you are using for PIC. >>Use The REPLY with Quote function to the original >message only >>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? >Yes>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? >No. Never spent enough time learning to use the SID/STAR free editor>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? >No>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? >Seperate folder>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? >Yes. Excellent utility>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? >>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? >No>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? >Yes, where applicable>That Concludes the Poll. >

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>Unscientific Poll Regarding the SID/STAR/Approaches Database >that you are using for PIC. >>Use The REPLY with Quote function to the original >message only >>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? Yes.>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? Sometimes>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? No>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? Seperate Folder>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? Yes>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? No>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? Yes>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? Yes>That Concludes the Poll. Thanks... did I win anything?DSCVA3339

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>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? Yes>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? Sometimes, when I think the downloaded are not correct.>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? No (that is, not n the default folders)>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? Yes, that is: in other folders under FMCWP>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? Yes.> Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? >Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? Always for every airport I visit. Just bought the new Eham set and ordered EKCH and ENGM from Jeppesen. Others are downloaded.>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? YesKind regards,Stephan Haas

>Unscientific Poll Regarding the SID/STAR/Approaches Database >that you are using for PIC. >>Use The REPLY with Quote function to the original >message only >>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? >YES>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? >NO>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? >NO>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? >NO>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? >Yes>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? >Not, since Answer to Q3 is NO>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? >Yes>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? >Sure>That Concludes the Poll. >

Preliminary results show the following:q1. Majority use the NAVDATA website.q2. Seems split - most peole update the NAVDATA SIDs to make them more accurate.q3. Majority keep them in the default FMCWP folder.q4. Of those that store the Database elsewhere, most store them in a seperate folder.q5. All of those who store the database outwith the default FMCWP folder use the SS Copierq6. No one has reported performance problems. - Performance problems have been reported on the forum by a few users who use the All in ONE file from the NAVDATA website.q7. Most of us it seems like to have the paper charts to hand as well.q8. Everyone would like their Sids to appear as runway specific. Follow this link and find out how to make q8 become reality http://ftp.avsim.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboa...rum=DCForumID33Thanks to all those who have taken the time to answer the questions.Mark

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