>Unscientific Poll Regarding the SID/STAR/Approaches Database >that you are using for PIC. >>Use The REPLY with Quote function to the original >message only >>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? Yes>>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? Yes>>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? No>>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? seperate folder and CD >>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? No>>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC?Absolutley Not >>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? Yes- Worldwide high altitude enroute charts, and Dp's and stars.>>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? I make my own >>That Concludes the Poll. >

I only notice "performance problems" when I open the FMC to a DEP/ARR page for an airport that has multiple procedures, i.e. Frankfurt, Germany is a good example....only while I have the DEP/ARR page open, PIC slows to a crawl while I scroll throught the 10 pages of SIDS/STARS....Once I CLOSE the DEP/ARR page, and return to PROG page or whatever, the performance decline ceases and I am back up to speed as normal.Are you suggesting that keeping a large database of SIDS/STARS (regardless of the source) in the FMWCP folder will affect the -overall- performance of the PIC OR only when trying to select one on the DEP/ARR page?? As far as I can tell, the degredation of performance ONLY occurs at the DEP/ARR page when dealing with airports that have a large amount of procedures.Correct me if I am wrong please.I have the all in one, no sorting utility, and I have removed a considerable amount of corrupt SIDS/STARS, replaced a large amount with seatacc/org or from other 'more reliable' sources. It's really only an issue for airports with a nutty amount of SIDS/STARS.Rob.

>Unscientific Poll Regarding the SID/STAR/Approaches Database >that you are using for PIC. >>Use The REPLY with Quote function to the original >message only >>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? YES>>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? NO>>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? USED TO, NOW REMOVED BECAUSE OF PERFORMANCE ISSUES>>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? YES>>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? YES>>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? >>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? YES>>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? YES>>That Concludes the Poll. >

LOL I have already printed it! Ahem, I have a few people I'd like to thank...Thanks to all the members of this Community for this prestigious honour. Thanks to AVSIM for hosting this forum. Thanks to my FBO, the Gas Attendant, and Sally at the Coffee Shop (I love your donuts, Sal).Deano: Orlando was a lot of fun. My laywer tells me that ALL charges will be dropped.Mike B: You rock. Thanks for the fuelling tips. Now I know that loading up ONE WINGTANK is not SOP.Also to all my pals at rehab: The shakes are almost gone guys, and soon I'll be back in the skies, behind the yoke, thanks to you!Special thanks to Rob Hall for forcing me into rehab in the first place. If he hadn't noticed my erratic taxiing during one of our PIC on VATSIM events, I might still be in the air, causing virtual havoc.DSCVA3339

"No. Never spent enough time learning to use the SID/STAR free editor"Not an easy thing to use so don't feel bad. I struggle with it every time I try to use it.

I find it is usually easier just to use the FMC itself for making procedures.Lee Hetherington (KBED)

>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? > Many of them, All of the SEARTCC procedures, & some from trusted good friends>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? >Not that often really, FSBuild 2.0 exports most of the waypoints which I then modify on the legs page as required for specific runways and restrictions per the charts>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? >Yes, but in a separate folder called "Not Installed" under each of the folders for APPR,STARS,STARS>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? >See answer to Q3>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? >No, Never, Ever, Never Ever>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? >Wellllllll, yes. But I attribute to slow processor and pushing scenery settings too high.>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? >Yes>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? >Yes, the ones done for Las Vegas on the SEARTCC site are a great example of what I consider the best way to set them up from a pilot perspective.>That Concludes the Poll. >Thanks for doing this Mark!

>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? Yes.>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? Sometimes.>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? No.>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? Separate folder.>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? No.>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? Yes.>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? Yes.rgdsTerops. Mark, what are you up to ? :)

Tero,Nothing Special.Mark

>Unscientific Poll Regarding the SID/STAR/Approaches Database >that you are using for PIC. >>Use The REPLY with Quote function to the original >message only >>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? no>>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts?no >>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? yes>>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? >>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? >>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC?yes >>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? yes,for some airports>>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? well....no....i'd rather have a printer,so i can print charts,to get the info i need.>>That Concludes the Poll. is that all? :-)>

>Unscientific Poll Regarding the SID/STAR/Approaches Database >that you are using for PIC. >>Use The REPLY with Quote function to the original >message only >>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? YES>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? YES>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? YES>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? >>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? >>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? NO>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? YES>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? NO>That Concludes the Poll. >

>Unscientific Poll Regarding the SID/STAR/Approaches Database >that you are using for PIC. >>Use The REPLY with Quote function to the original >message only >>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? >yes>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? >yes>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? >yes>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? >>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? >>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? >no>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? >yes>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? >yes, where they exist>That Concludes the Poll. >

>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? Yes. Many of my Sid, stars, and approaches are from the navdata site.>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? Yes all the time.>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? Yes.>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? No.>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? Yes - a pretty sweet set of Jepps, CAPS, and FLIP charts - all outdated though, the Kennedy 2 departure is still valid isn't it?>>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? Umm - for DP's where it actually matters YES. Yet - this already exists so I am confused.Ian Elchitz CYWG

>Unscientific Poll Regarding the SID/STAR/Approaches Database >that you are using for PIC. >>Use The REPLY with Quote function to the original >message only >>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? >Yes, always>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? >Rarely>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? >No>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? >Seperate folder>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? >Yes, always>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? >>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? >Yes>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? >Yes :-)>That Concludes the Poll. >

>Q1. Do You use the SID/STAR Database from the NAVDATA >Website? Yes.>Q2. Do You Make Your Own Procedures using Charts? No.>Q3. Do You Keep all Your procedures in the FMCWP folder >in FS? Yes.>Q4. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you store them in a seperate folder or on a >CD? N/A>Q5. Only answer if NO to question 3 > Do you use the SSCopier? NA>Q6. Only answer if YES to question 3 > Do you suffer from performance problems with 767 >PIC? Good question. Perhaps a little but I really couldn't say for sure.>Q7. Do you have Paper Charts? No.>Q8. Would you like Runway Specific SIDs in the FMC? Absolutely.John/AFG