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Monitor Magnifiers--Anyone Using Them?

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I've been scouring the web to see what's available to give my 17" monitor a little more pizzazz with FS2002. I'm interested in those magnifiers that attach to the front of your monitor. Do these magnifiers work well or do they distort the image too much? Anyone using them?Thanks!

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You mean a Fresnel Lens? There's been a couple discussion about them here, try searching for that. ;)Matt

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I've been using a Fresnel lens in my home flight deck for some time now and couldn't live without it. The lens is in front of a 19" monitor which shows the outside view only.Two other 17" monitors below show the primary and secondary instruments on custom made panels along with FSNav4.The lens, in addition to making the image much larger, provides a depth of field which makes things more 3D like. The far end of the runway looks far away.There is no distortion but you must spend a little time at initial setup to ensure that the lens and monitor are centred and at the right focal distance.However, I have not tried the lens with both the outside view and the panel on the same screen so you might not get quite the same effect - but bigger is better in any event. In using a Fresnel lens the only view is from in front of it. Anyone in the first officer's seat will see nothing!!!Also, you don't want any unwanted light reflections spoiling the result.A good quality lens is essential. I got mine from www.rcsimulations.com - about UK

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Thanks for the response. I found a number of places on the internet that sold these but was unsure of the quality or which style was best(some just hang in front while others seems to attach to the monitor). Sounds like this could make quite a difference in simming. Thanks for the webpage.Anyone else have these and where did you get them?Randall

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Hey Chris,Thanks for that link.Some while back when the discussions of Fresnel lenses was on going I looked for UK or internet suppliers and I could only find small plastic ones (no good) or RC (too expensive) so your link is valuable, I may now take the plunge.Slightly off topic.These sort of devices are often marketed at disabled folks and it is interesting to compare prices.Recently I was looking at suppliers of the ED tracker, you know that that IF thing with the spot stuck on your head.ED's price was reasonable but my search brought up numerous UK sites for disabled people offering a similar or identical item and prices were around

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I would assume it would magnify the pixels too, meaning running fs in a higher res. if possible. I invested in a 22" screen and it still does the job no matter how old the rig. I just upgrade the pc; the screen remains, it doesn't degrade!(Iiyama visionmaster pro 510)

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I'm very interested in getting a fresnel lens for flying. Does anyone know who I'd contact in the USA about purchasing one? I'm having a heck of a time finding vendors online! Usually a google search will immediately dig up a lot of relevant information, but this time it's giving me mostly old, out-of-date information. Help?

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Thanks to the link from Chris I have just ordered one ;) .If this msg is still alive after trying it I'll let you know how I found it on a 19 inch monitor, I want it more for the 3D effect than making the screen bigger.Who konws, if it doesn't work out there wil be a cut price fresnel for sale :(

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Well. mine arrived today, thanks for that link Chris.It's Ok...yes it's good, magnification does not detract from or 'pixelate', the image. There is a modest degree of '3D' enhancement and this is particularly pleasant for external views.2d cockpit views suffer very slightly in terms of instrument readability, but you can move the lens to compensate - trade off image size for clarity.I have a very small table for my monitor/yoke/keyboard/mouse, so this arrangement isn't ideal - my range of fore/aft movement of the lens is limited, but I'm pleased with it. Good for the money -

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Thanks for reporting back--great timing as I happened to be looking for a reply to this thread today. I take it from your report that you did not experience any distortion (for example, around the edge).You didn't mention its effect on the virtual cockpit--any improvement?Thanks again for your report.R

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>Well. mine arrived today, thanks for that link Chris. Today the link is showing the item unavailable, however if you delete the last part of the address and enter through the main page, select the ihs option instead of the hah option, the item is still available. Just ordered one too.

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>I'm very interested in getting a fresnel lens for flying. >Does anyone know who I'd contact in the USA about purchasing >one? I'm having a heck of a time finding vendors online! >I purchased one from Edmund Scientific. They are in New Jersey. A good quality Fresnel lens will cost you around $140.Michael J.

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philhow long did it take to be delivered,they quote 28 days on the site?!thanks keith

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How well will these work with a flat screen monitor? Will a curved lens distort the picture?

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Thanks, that's the link I've been looking for. I'm seriously considering one, as they sound like a great addition.

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They come in 2 different groves/per inch versions. Make sure you buy the one with FEWER groves/per inch. These are used for imagery. The other ones are for light diffusion.Michael J.

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I've used my fresnel lens with both curved and flat screens. Initially it makes the flat screen look kinda "hollow", but the brain soon learns to compensate for that, and everything is back to normal. Jaap Verduijn.

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Effect of fresnel lens on vc is much the same as 2d cockpit - a degree of loss of focus but that offset by increased size and general pleasant appearance. This is bound to be a matter of opinion I think. There is a degree of distortion around the edges, no detraction from the image and again - my range of lens fore/aft movement is severely limited. I use a Sony E400 Trinitron - clear as crystal flat screen and like Chris, I prefer to fly with the lens now.Funny question to Chris and other users - which way round do you prefer the lens? Both ways seem to work well - the "wrong" way round seems to work best!PH

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Phil,Haven't tried it much the 'wrong' way round, but it did seem to give a slightly less pin-cushion effect the wrong way. I have been using it the right way (which is convex surface facing the user - sort of mimicing the monitor's curvature) but I will have to experiment some more now you mention it!!BTW, have you tried in in front of your TV ? Wow!!Chris Ehttp://www.circle-software.co.ukhttp://website.lineone.net/~flightsimukAvoid AGP texturing = Better Performance ;)

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Just ordered mine :-)How long do they take to deliver? It says up to 28 days?

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