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LGAV question

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Flying towards LGAV, I got a weather report for winds at 050 degrees, so I assumed that rwys 03L/R would be in use. However, when I got there, I realised that the runways in use are 21R/L. I checked ASV window and saw this (attached file).a) Why is there a reference in LGAT (which is closed for the last 5 years)?:( Why the rwy in use is one with a strong tailwind when METARS actually show an opposite wind?c) What's the actual wind conditions in this METAR? 160018, 01020, or 04016????Thanks!Kostis

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Kwstas,You must manually eddit the Complete airport List and wx_station list txtsAt the Complete AIrport list find any reference of LGAT and erase it. Find LGAV and paste this LGAV,037.936,023.945,308At the Ex_Station list find LGAT and erase it and then copy the following LGAV,37.936,23.945,90,3.0From now one you are goign to have LGAV as identifier in AS. ALso you must erase the code for the American base at SUDA which appears travelling towards there na dleave only LGSA. Unfortunately I don;t remember the code by heart.Alos Damian any news on adding LGIO LGST and LGTG station is your server?RegardsChris

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Thanks Chris. I'll give it a try.

Hi Kostis,c) Wind is as shown in the right hand pane where it says 'decoded', so it is 040 at 16kts. That is the wind reported by the METAR.The 01020 wind is from the TAF which has a slightly later time (1600Z as opposed to 1550Z). So the wind has shifted North and strengthend to 20 Kts.Hope that's right :-)As to why rwy21 would be in use is anyones guess, FS ATC seems to have a mind of its own :-)If flying on VATSIM were you using the VATSIM option for ASV?

Jim: Thanks! Maybe you guys could include LGAV in the next update. For the time being I followed Chris' advice and edited the two txt files myself.Vulcan: Now, that makes more sense. I'm used in looking at the actual METAR and keep skipping the new addition of the decoding window that simplifies things :). Btw I don't fly in Avsim.P.S. (8 miles NE of EGCC??? You don't happen to live in Fallowfield, do you???)

>P.S. (8 miles NE of EGCC??? You don't happen to live in Fallowfield, do you???)

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>Hi,>>LGAV is there already, I just checked. You may need to remove>LGAT from the complete_airport_list.txt. That is the data from>FS04.>>Hope this helps,>Jim>ActiveSky Sales and Support>http://www.hifisim.com/images/asv_dev_team.jpg>http://www.hifisim.com/images/asv_proud_supporter.jpgJim I would suggest you completelly remove LGAT in future updates even if FS has it there. Its a non existent airport nowadays and it does create problems in FS with its (FS WX) proximity to LGAV since you don't have LGAV code in the files of each AS update.Check also the older thread:http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...95&mesg_id=8795If you have proof that LGAT (MET station) updates weather correctly and always in sequence with other METARs, then by all means keep it but make sure at least that LGAV gets its WX correctly and individually from LGAT.For the record: the is based at LGAT site where the airport used to be! That though is not any more the same for Athens's capital airport.I had sent emails to Damian quite few times in the past about extra weather METARs in Greece that are available only by the servers of HNMS and could be added to AS but I never got a positive responce.Regards,Kyprianos Biris :-cool[link:vateur.org|VATSIM-EUR][link:hvacc.org]Hellenic vACChttp://vateur.org/staff/vateur_m.jpghttp://online.vatsimindicators.net/810309/3.png

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Hi,Guys,Remember that LGAT is the only settable station in FS9... the servers are automatically getting the data from LGAV and applying it to the LGAT station data (that FS9 can depict). If you remove LGAT then you won't get weather depicted anywhere in that immediate region (it will instead be interpolated from other closest stations). Not sure why the ATC would be wrong concerning the runway, unless the wind switched recently and ATC simply had not yet adjusted the traffic.Kyprianos, because of the FS9 station issue we were unable to do anything with the server details you provided us with. We did try quite a few times and came close to making things work but the fact that there are (in most cases) no specific FS9 stations to match these with makes it (made it) a troublesome task.Fortunately we've had a recent breakthrough in another area, which (I think) will finally enable additional stations to be added properly. I know you've been writing us for quite a while now hoping for better Greece station support, providing some great detailed information (thanks!), and I hope we'll finally be able to get this in for the next update (in progress). Please e-mail me, I can send you some test data.Best,

Damian Clark
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Thanks Damian. It sounds promising. For the time being, I'm just used to expect tailwinds with the active runways and I'm able to see which rwy is in use only after contacting tower.

>Kwstas,>>>You must manually eddit the Complete airport List and>wx_station list txts>>At the Complete AIrport list find any reference of LGAT and>erase it. Find LGAV and paste this LGAV,037.936,023.945,308>>At the Ex_Station list find LGAT and erase it and then copy>the following LGAV,37.936,23.945,90,3.0>Chris the current setup for best weather fetch is:Complete_Airport_List.txtLGAT,037.905,023.724,68LGAV,37.936,23.945,308wx_station_list.txtLGAT,37.896,23.728,20,2.9LGAV,37.936,23.945,90,3.0and this is how ASV must have it. The reason (for still keeping LGAT) is explained by Damian below.>From now one you are goign to have LGAV as identifier in AS.>ALso you must erase the code for the American base at SUDA>which appears travelling towards there na dleave only LGSA.>Unfortunately I don;t remember the code by heart.>The LGSA's NATO base is KQNCYes if that is included it should be removed whilst making sure LGSA is inside.>Alos Damian any news on adding LGIO LGST and LGTG station is>your server?>Not yet. I will email him as he suggests in his latest post below.There's also LGTP and more available for fetching from www.hnms.gr server.>Regards>>ChrisKyprianos Biris :-cool[link:vateur.org|VATSIM-EUR][link:hvacc.org]Hellenic vACChttp://vateur.org/staff/vateur_m.jpghttp://online.vatsimindicators.net/810309/3.png

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>Hi,>>Guys,>>Remember that LGAT is the only settable station in FS9... the>servers are automatically getting the data from LGAV and>applying it to the LGAT station data (that FS9 can depict). >If you remove LGAT then you won't get weather depicted>anywhere in that immediate region (it will instead be>interpolated from other closest stations). Not sure why the>ATC would be wrong concerning the runway, unless the wind>switched recently and ATC simply had not yet adjusted the>traffic.>So the configuration right now should be Complete_Airport_List.txtLGAT,037.905,023.724,68LGAV,37.936,23.945,308wx_station_list.txtLGAT,37.896,23.728,20,2.9LGAV,37.936,23.945,90,3.0Please remember to include this in each update of the software because each times its updated users from Greece ask again and again the same questions on AS setup !>Kyprianos, because of the FS9 station issue we were unable to>do anything with the server details you provided us with. We>did try quite a few times and came close to making things work>but the fact that there are (in most cases) no specific FS9>stations to match these with makes it (made it) a troublesome>task.>>Fortunately we've had a recent breakthrough in another area,>which (I think) will finally enable additional stations to be>added properly. I know you've been writing us for quite a>while now hoping for better Greece station support, providing>some great detailed information (thanks!), and I hope we'll>finally be able to get this in for the next update (in>progress). Please e-mail me, I can send you some test data.>>Best,>Off course I will email you again ;-)A.S. is not the only software that had issues with LGAV WX. had it too and it was recently fixed.Its documented in [link:www.mcdu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2635|thread] from its forum.Kyprianos Biris :-cool[link:vateur.org|VATSIM-EUR][link:hvacc.org]Hellenic vACChttp://vateur.org/staff/vateur_m.jpghttp://online.vatsimindicators.net/810309/3.png

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Hellenic vACC - Olympic Aegean Virtual

Prepar3D 5.3 | CPU i9 10900K | VGA: RTX 3070 | RAM: 32GB DDR4 | Monitor: 3440x1440

I would like to insert some China Airports. What is the correct format in the two cfg files.Bill M

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