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Saitek X45 default rudder/nosewheel control too harsh

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I would like to reduce the sensitivity of the nosewheel steering when using the defualt rudder toggle.I find that the rudder sensitivity in FS9 has two sliders!The top slider seems to have no effect on the visual rudder movement whilst the lower slider does make the rudder move slower.But in all cases the nosewheel steering seems the same, making it difficult to make smooth and gentle turns on the taxiway.Nigel

I have the X45 and have put the sliders every which way myself. The best I seem to be able to do is make it so that I can move the rudder thing just a little bit farther before the plane veers off the runway. :/You just kind of have to play with the sliders till it's the "least bad" you can get it, then just get used to the sensitivity.I have recently re-installed FS9 because of the patch and so my sliders are back at the defaults, and definitely more sensitive than I had them at. Unfortunately I can't remember where I used to have them so I'm going to have to find the "bittersweet" spot all over again.

I also use a Saitek X-45 joystick setup and intially experienced the same rudder over-sensitivity as you describe. After doing some research I found the following solution that has worked for me -Add the following line to your FS9.cfg file under the [Controls] header:stick_sensitivity_mode=0...and save your fs9.cfg, restart FS2004 and see how it works for ya.

Add the following line to your FS9.cfg file under the header, [CONTROLS]:stick_sensitivity_mode=0Sorry, the above message in this thread was inadvertedly truncated and I left out the name of the fs9.cfg section header that you copy the text to. Shame on me! :(

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I don't know how you guys do it. I took that controller back after feeling like I'd need hand surgery. Even with the screws backed out, it was hard on my wrist. I went and got the CH Yoke and Pedals and couldn't even consider going back to a joystick. It's has made flying so much easier and fun!

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Thanks Guys!How great to wake up this morning to find so many replies on my virtual doormat.I appreciate knowing others share the problem.Diane, I will give that fix a try, tho' you don't say what effects it might have.Sorry you had problems with getting the text to show, we all make mistakes (which sector is it that you control!)Nigel

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Dianne,What a doll you are! I mean for the tip, tho' your photo is nice too!I realise that the setting you suggest dumbs down all the flight controls. But then by pushing the sensitivities of everything under Options/Controls up to max I get a fair amount back. Whilst leaving that second rudder slider (why is there a second one? perhaps it should have been marked Nosewheel) at a low setting (for me just below halfway) and I get smooth control of steering on the ground as well.Like everything in life and flight simming it is a compromise, as no doubt the experts would say the feel of the ailerons and elevator are not as they should be. But I can cope with that and enjoy being able to follow the centre of the taxiway without veeering left and right like a drunkard!Many thanks for everyones adviceNigel

I love the X45, but I never liked the rudder control. I use them combined with a set of CH rudder pedals.

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Craig from KBUF

I think that rudder control without having actual pedals will always be a compromise for sure. I previously used a twist grip type joystick for rudder and it was always difficult to maintain precise pitch while making coordinated turns. The Saitek rocker switch on the throttle for rudder control seems to work a lot better for me, especially when flying FS2004 helos. Continuous use of the rocker switch on the Saitek might make ya a candidate for carpal tunnel syndrome though, lol, it's not a perfect solution. :)The difficulty in designing rudder control into a joystick unit is that the user must be able to leave his/her hands on the control stick or throttle whilst at the same time having access to rudder control. This mandates having either a stick-accessible rocker switch or a twist axis joystick. If a designer took another route and used buttons or another method not accessible in flight without removing one's hands from either the throttle or joystick, it wouldn't be very effective or precise for the sim pilot.My next hardware upgrade is definitely going to be those CH USB pedals though, gosh, can't wait to get my hands (feet) :( on them.

Hi Nigel,Awww, I bet you say that to all the girls dontcha? :(Glad it's working for ya. You are right though, from here it's a matter of fine tuning sentitivities on the other joystick axes after getting the rudder tamed. I think it works out to be a good compromise with plenty of control all around. If anything, I think that joysticks most often are too responsive in the sim compared to real world aircraft. This is especially true with heavy jets which have a sizable 'pull' on their real yokes. I don't know about the second rudder slider, I've never seen that with my setup - will have to double check.

I've had those peds for over a year now. Two cautions in the setup:The center yaw position (no pressure) does not always return to the center electrical value - close but no cigar - so leave a bit of null in there. I also keep the sensitivity down and I do use the full registered FSUIPC to calibrate it. (I had problems with earlier CH Control Managers so avoid it.)You may in FS Toe Brake assignments have to reverse the axis.I was a real world pilot and can't live without the peds especially for all the crabs and slips in crosswind manuvers.

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I have the X36 and find steering on the ground ranges from difficult to near impossible on a lot of planes. However, the SGA DC 10 steers perfectly. You can take it down the taxiways and park at the gate with true realism and accuracy. Which leads me to believe there's nothing wrong with the rudder settings on the controller, it's whats built into the air file,or whatever. SGA have got it spot on, as they have with the rest of this superb model.Russell.

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Hi All,Could anyone please comment on joystick pitch control with the X45? Mine is terribly "sticky" and "jumpy", so that it is very difficult to get smooth pitch movment(on rotation, for example). Do I have a faulty stick, or is this the way it works(roll and yaw don't seem as bad)? If so, how do you get around this, please?I confess that I am used to the digital optical technology of the MS Sidewinder Pro, which is the very opposite, ie, so smooth that it is easy to over-control.Thanks in advance,Frank

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Frank,It is a long time ago that I posted to this thread.I haven't experienced this problem and I assume it is not a mechanical stickiness? Just that the PC doesn't detect the movement as smoothly as it should.Is it posssible you are using a slowish PC maybe even with USB v1?What happens if you try to control using keyboard does the same stickiness show up. If it does I would look to some other processes that are interupting.Perhaps try and disable the virus checker and other background programs and see what changes.A question I should have asked at the start is has it worked O.K. and if so what else happened around the time it went wrong?I have too many times wondered why some problem occured, then only after a long diagnoses remembered a change I made which I had forgotten!Nigel

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