Gary,Thanks for the link!Next question to ya'll. For those whith 79XX cards, is anyone still using pre 8xxx series drivers in conjunction with SP2? Also, I've installed FS9 just for kicks, and noticed with these drivers, my night textures look 8 or 16 bit, even with everything from desktop to sim at 32 bit...is anyone having a happy medium with both sims, or is it getting to be one or another where drivers are concerned?FYI, my specs are:Dell XPS400 2.4 ghz dual core XP Home SP22 gig ramEva 7950GT 512 PCIeViewSonic 22" wide screen flat panelThanks all,

Actually, my FS9 BSODs after 10-20mins now with these drivers. Well, I think it is them anyway. Reloading 162.5 WHQLs now ....Gary

Just wanted to give an update; I've been messing with older drivers, as far back as the 94.24s, and with FSX and Acceleration (sp2) installed; I still get the CTDs when bringing up the tool bar in Full Screen mode. I've tried various tricks (pause, unpause, no mouse just key strokes) and still, CTD.So, unless someone can tell me how to run in Window'ed mode by making a change in my fsx.cfg file, I've got no other route otherthan to uninstall Acceleration.Thanks all,KenDell xps400 2.4 ghz duel core; XP home SP22 gig ramNvId 7950GT 512 pcieDrivers: 94.24, 93.81, 163.75....none work

You can switch from full screen to windowed mode by hitting ALT-ENTER.Interestingly, yesterday I had Acceleration lock up on me accessing the menu in full screen after nearly a week of having no such problem. The only think different of note was that I finally registered my copy of Acceleration (I was putting it off as I am installing Vista 64 next week and did not want to unnecessarily use up my allowable registrations).Gary

Gary,Thats the problem, as soon as I hit the "alt" key, she locks up and within about 30 seconds, CTD. Thanks though,Ken

>>Anyway, I recommend to use driver cleaner before installing>>this one.>>>>What's the best driver cleaner to use? Does it actually make>any difference?I'm suprised people still swear by driver cleaners and the like. Do you think nVidia are unable to write an install program that doesn't fully install their own drivers but instead relies on, but does not tell anyone, that to get the best of of their cards and drivers they should instead use an application from a third party that is better at removing their own drivers than their own software...?

>>>Anyway, I recommend to use driver cleaner before>installing>>>this one.>>>>>>>What's the best driver cleaner to use? Does it actually make>>any difference?>>>I'm suprised people still swear by driver cleaners and the>like. Do you think nVidia are unable to write an install>program that doesn't fully install their own drivers but>instead relies on, but does not tell anyone, that to get the>best of of their cards and drivers they should instead use an>application from a third party that is better at removing>their own drivers than their own software...?I've always chuckled at people going through all of that. It's totally unnecessary.EwingKATLAlcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a store, not a government agency.MSI K8N Neo2 PlatinumAMD Opteron 185 2.6 Ghz Dual Core2GB Kingston HyperX (2X1GB) Dual Channel DDR 2-3-2-6 @ 1TXFX nVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS 256MB DDR3 AGPSound Blaster Audigy LSSilverStone Decathlon 750W +12v@60A +5v@30AFS9 on WinXPPro (SP1)

Yes you are right.When I go forward, I don't do it.But Windows uninstall is known to leave a lot of jitter behind.So when I go backwards to test an older driver, sometimes windows may just refuse to overwrite a newer file, and you may have a incompatibity issue. So not to lose time with troubleshooting, I make sure there is nothing left of the old drivers. Takes me only one reboot into safe mode , and that is no big deal. The only thing those programs do, is physically remove the bits left by the uninstall program.Jan

A quick update here so I don't lead people astray. My FS9 BSODs turn out to be caused by PC-Cillin Antivirus rather than video drivers. Gotta love conflicts like this - NOT!Gary

>Yes you are right.>When I go forward, I don't do it.>>But Windows uninstall is known to leave a lot of jitter>behind.>>So when I go backwards to test an older driver, sometimes>windows may just refuse to overwrite a newer file, and you may>have a incompatibity issue. So not to lose time with>troubleshooting, I make sure there is nothing left of the old>drivers. >Takes me only one reboot into safe mode , and that is no big>deal. >The only thing those programs do, is physically remove the>bits left by the uninstall program.>JanTesting older drivers and "uninstalling" Windoze? If you want to abuse yourself, why don't you stand there and let me beat you with a stick?What on earth are you testing and why would anyone "uninstall" Windoze? I do not understand your logic.If nVidia is incapable of making a program that will remove their own driver, why would you trust them to make a reliable driver? I have more faith in nVidia's uninstaller than I do in some 3rd party's hack, ripping through my registry with reckless abandon.Why would you punish yourself uninstalling/reinstalling windoze and changing drivers? There are much better (and more effective ) ways to tweak your system.EwingKATLAlcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a store, not a government agency.MSI K8N Neo2 PlatinumAMD Opteron 185 2.6 Ghz Dual Core2GB Kingston HyperX (2X1GB) Dual Channel DDR 2-3-2-6 @ 1TXFX nVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS 256MB DDR3 AGPSound Blaster Audigy LSSilverStone Decathlon 750W +12v@60A +5v@30AFS9 on WinXPPro (SP1)