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I really wish that Imagine would have a support forum. I've had problems installing KEWR, TJSJ, and KCLT. I've emailed them before and they basically told I was on my own to figure out what was going wrong with EWR.Now I'm having problems with TJSJ and I think this might be the last time I get an imagine simulation product.I've installed TJSJ and I see waves crashing on the northenr runway. You don't see water, you just see the white wave crests crashing. I also noticed that when my aircraft is on the runways I can't see a shadow. I get my own shadow on the ramps, but not on the runways.I noticed that KEWR and KCLT both add flatten or exclude switches to the Scenery.cfg but TJSJ doesn't. Did Imagine forget that aspect? I did some experimenting with KCLT and I noticed that if I remove the flatten switch, I get the same effect on the runways (Aircraft sinks slightly below level and I can't see my own shadow, but no waves.)Any help regarding this would be appreciated. Mariano

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I have the same issue with the waves on the north side. Global warming? Haven't had time to do anything further on it yet.Sorry to hear of your frustration with ImagineSim- overall I am very happy with all of their products, and I'm sure a solution will come up for this one.Joe Lorenc

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My experience with Imaginsim is that, whatever the Problem, it must be you. The only Airport I own from Imaginesim is MYNN. I have always had the problem of certain Aircraft textures being Blurry. Other Aircraft parked right next to them are clear and sharp. I used to chalk it up to my computer and Grapics card not being up to Snuff. With my Fancy new Duo Core processor and 8800 Graphics the problem should have gone away. It didn't. All they ever said to me was, It ain't us, Check your Drivers. If that was the case Nvidia and ATI have the same problem. I've considered purchasing some of their other Sceneries, but hesitate as they won't help me solve this problem and won't own up that it is their problem too. And Yes! A forum would be nice, if only for users to compare problems and make Imaginesim aware of them.Bill

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Imaginesim......'Cal' from SimFlyers right?Let's face it, SimFlyers had their day in FS2002. Imaginesim has not really improved the old SimFlyers design techniques as far as I can tell.Cloud9, FlyTampa, Flightzone etc have raised the bar for scenery design. They do bang them out at a quick rate though. I'll leave you to decide what that means about the quality of work...............

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Bill, I too have the blurry aircraft texture problem and I don't have anything from Imagine. I noticed it when I rarely selected a default aircraft the other day. It seems isolated to default aircraft which I never fly. I got it corrected by using a new FS9 cfg. When I went back into the cfg. to do the tweaks all over again the default aircraft blurry textures came back. I never tried to find the root cause because I don't fly the default aircraft.

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Co-inky-dink Daryll? Not in my case. I don't use any default aircraft. Although I have noticed (and this may be grabbing at Straws)that it seems to be aircraft with lots of red and blues in their texture. I tend to discard this theory because I once noticed a Hooter's 757, mostly Orange and White lookin a little fuzzy. Aircraft Painters might have something to say about this Phenonomen. Things Like alpha channels and stuff in the textures might play Havoc with certain sceneries. But this kind of theorizing is way beyond my capabilities.Bill

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Well so far on the demo it has that problem with both runways not casting shadows on the ground, and at rwy 26 has that small wave like effect on on parts of it, its not a big thing but you can tell if you stare at it long enough.Mariano, the flattens are in the bgls I believe.

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I have discovered something new in this Fuzzy (blurry) texture situation. Switching between windowed mode and full screen changes the sitution. If an aircraft is fuzzy, switch to windowed mode and Voila! It clears up. The same thing happens in reverse, if you are in windowed mode switch to full screen and be back to sharp again. While using the Traffic tool SDK, I followed an American ATR42 up and away from MYNN. About 200 feet off the ground, it and the background scenery went suddenly Blurry. Swiching Modes, it immediatly cleared up. I hope this little bit of additional information will help you FS9 Gurus figure out this problem. I just realized, I may have Hijacked this Post. I didn't mean to, but someone responded to my reply and it went on from there. I apologise Mariano.Bill

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Methinks you're being a bit unfair. To compare ImagineSim's latest sceneries with the old Simflyers stuff makes little sense. (You're not thinking of BluePrint Simulations are you?)Sure, the other three you mentioned are slightly better, but what have they done recently? No, Imagine produces decent sceneries, now and for FS9. That deserves a little more respect than "...............", but maybe that's just me............... :(

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I agree with you Mike, the ImagineSim sceneries are certainly much better than the older Simflyers ones, they are generally easy on frames and they look good. Best of all, they produce them at a good rate so that we get lots of different airports to visit.FlyTampa and the other "top notch" developers are excellent, but their products take a looong time to develop.

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I have bought TJSJ from Imagesim and have no problems with wavesor any other issues. One way of resolving the waves issue for sureis to download and install Puerto Rico Mesh and Gottfried Razek's photoreal scenery which is freeware and comes in 3 files: 2 lowres and 1 high res. The only problem will be some default autogenbuildings standing in the water further up the coast, but form me thisis not a big issue.Regards

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>to download and install Puerto Rico Meshhttp://fool.exler.ru/sm/fly2.gif"To go up, pull the stick back. To go down, pull the stick back harder"

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I think it is a pretty good scenery too.I do see the water splashes but I also see a small river/creek.As for the plane being sunk into the ground and no shadows, I do not have this problem. I do have my TERRAIN_MAX_VERTEX_LEVEL set to 21....Also, I have seen flattens added to the scenery CFG on other scereny's. It's not always just in a BGL, but I know nothing about scenery much less how to flatten it.

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>I have bought TJSJ from Imagesim and have no problems with>waves>or any other issues. One way of resolving the waves issue for>sure>is to download and install Puerto Rico Mesh and Gottfried>Razek's photoreal scenery which is freeware and comes in 3>files: 2 low>res and 1 high res. The only problem will be some default>autogen>buildings standing in the water further up the coast, but form>me this>is not a big issue.>>RegardsHI that's odd I will have to recheck the San Juan area for any conflict's I do have the mesh on I wanted to try it out with out Gottfried photo real textures will try them with them on, is anyone else experiencing the now shadows on the runways?Bill I never experinced that kind of problem before that is strange.While I totally respect everyone epinion Imaginesim is one of the only ones producing and making scenery at a nice pace for all of us too enjoy heck I tired to make scenery myself and its just way to hard for me it takes a huge amount of time and effort to finish something. I know there are some airports that folks here would love too see and I wish them the best of luck to them that the next ones get picked like PANC and some airports in Canada.

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I have all of their sceneries except KDEN and KEWR and like all of them.I see them like wine they are getting better with age ...As far as comparing them to SIMFLYERS come on not even close .These guys can pack KDTW,KCLT,MYNN,KMCI with little or no frame rate issues at all.I also own most FlyTampa and The RI and Portland scenery and I will agree they are a notch up but Imagine gives u moving jetways which I always prefer.Keep em coming cant wait to replace my old SimFlyer's KATL with theirs.Andy

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I'm also very happy with my Imaginesim sceneries. I don't own every one, but quite a few. They look very good and have excellent performance. That's all I ask for from my scenery. I don't think they are quite up there with FlyTampa and FlightScenery, but if I only flew those few sceneries, I'd be bored with fs2004! Imaginesim also has two other big plusses in my book:-They are still developing for fs2004-They pick airports with some variety I love how they did MYNN and TJSJ. When I saw them doing Nassau I almost hit the floor. I love to see something different. As for the waves on the ground at TJSJ, I get this at a few of my coastal airports. Honestly, I thought that was one of those fs2004 bugs that we just learned to deal with? I thought I've seen the same thing in Boston, JFK, etc. I'll have to check though.

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Hi All:You may find some help at Aerosoft forums. They are affiliated I think via the airport enhancement services which work at some ImagineSim airports.Just a thought.RegardsRick

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Okay! We all love Imaginesim. And I admit I may be wrong in associating my Blurry Aircraft with MYNN. But "so help me!, I do not have this problem anyplace in FS9 but at Nassau. I guess I should purchase TJSJ? Would that prove anything? I will ask, if anyone is using MYNN and Freeflow Bahamas together, if any of you have a similar problem.Bill

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>Okay! We all love Imaginesim. And I admit I may be wrong in>associating my Blurry Aircraft with MYNN. But "so help me!, I>do not have this problem anyplace in FS9 but at Nassau. I>guess I should purchase TJSJ? Would that prove anything? I>will ask, if anyone is using MYNN and Freeflow Bahamas>together, if any of you have a similar problem.>>Bill Do the textures just take awhile to load? That is common pretty much anywhere. Or do they never sharpen? Anyway, start with:http://www.scenerysolutions.com/doc/performanceTuning.pdf

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Hey guys. Bill, I did experience fuzzy textures on AI aircraft. For me it had to do with MIP maps. I notices it expecially on FSP buses (330 and 340). I went trhough my whole AI library and made sure that all the textures were legit (You don't want to know how long that took.). Now I make sure that all the textures are in DX3 format with no MIPS. You can do this by opening them with DTXbmp. On the right hand side you'll see a checkmark for MIPS. You'll also notice that the DX3 textures saved with MIPS are about 1366 KB, as opposed to one without which should be 1025. If you notice a 4000+ file then it is a 32Bit. I use to stick to 32 bits but I found that I had to get close enough that you couldn't see the whole aircraft to notice any difference, so I went with DX3 to helps with the FPSs. Word of advice; I now check all AI textures I download and convert them all to DX3 for standardization. You'll find all sorts of formats like 256 colors and DX1. I had a CTD that kept occuring at some airports. MMMX would never load, MMUN rarely, KLAX (CL9) sometimes and KBOS once in a blue moon would give me full lock ups (reset button) or various .dll messages. I deactivated all AI to try and sort out and it went away. Turns out that it was the texture for an Aeromexico Dinasaur 9 with some weird texture format. (That's why Mexico city would never load, and the other airports would only load when AMX wasn't in town.)Hope that helps someone. Took me ages to sort it out. Mariano

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"Mariano, the flattens are in the bgls I believe."Hy Cesar.Yeah, I saw that there are flattens in the scenery folder. But KEWR and KCLT both have flatten for the Scenery.cfg and if you remove the KCLT flatten from the Scenery.cfg you get the plane sinking into the runway in the same way. So I think that maybe Imaginesim forgot to add them. But this is the kind of stuff that having a forum would solve.Don't get me wrong, I love Imaginesim's stuff, they've come a long way from their earlier sceneries. But I just wish they're support could evolve like their sceneries have. I don't expect them to be perfect as long as they are willing to work to fix the faults. But it is hard to do that without a forum where people can say "hey, that happens to me too". Anyway, lets see if we can solve this. I'm gonna try to make a flatten switch and I'll post the results. Maybe that will solve the shadows missing on runways issue, which is the one that gets to me the most. I do have a third party mesh from FSGenesis for all of the caribbean and every other add-on works good with FSgenesis (aside from the ocasional tabletop airport effect).Mariano

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Flattens in the scenery.cfg file are usually for a simple rectangle around an airport that's shaped like a... rectangle.The moment it gets complicated, you make a bgl file instead. TJSJ clearly falls in the latter category, so I doubt anything was forgotten. I should have the scenery today or tomorrow, so I can finally see for myself what the issues are. ;-)

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Okay, I get the waves (I don't have aircraft shadows turned on so couldn't care less about that), but nowhere on the runways, just in the grass. Kinda like marshland this way. :D Doesn't really bother me. Very nice scenery by the way!Edit: I've sent a mail to Imagine. And upon closer inspection I do see waves on some taxiways as well.

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