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Hi guys. I recently upgraded my video card from a 32mb onboard video card, to a 256mb PCI GeForce FX 5500. I tested it with Counter Strike Source, as well as a couple of demos that I downloaded, (Pro Evolution Soccer 6, and FIFA 06). The graphics were beautiful, and I know the card works perfectly, like its supposed to. So I loaded up Flight Simulator 2004, and I increased the resolution to 1024 x 768. When the game runs, it has HORRIBLE graphics. It's as if there was absolutely no change at all, from my crappy 32mb video card. I've tried a lot of things, but I've been unsuccessful so far. I've reset all the settings to default, but that didnt work either. I'm pretty sure the game is supposed to look good... Not bad with this new video card that I now have. Can somebody please help me? What exactly is the problem here?Thanks.

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Your new card is still very old technology, I would be surprised if your saw a improvement.Rob

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may be an idea to list the rest of your system specs and perhaps also a screenshot of the problems you are having

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Thanks for all the replies.I have the latest graphics drivers installed, here are my other system specs.2.4 Ghz Intel Celeron Processor, 512 mb RAM, GeForce Fx 5500, I know my system is old, but I think it should be able to run the game, kind of good? Not just with horrible 32mb video card graphics?All your replies are appreciated guys, keep em coming! :)

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I plan on building a whole new PC actually, I've been saving up for a while now. But shouldn't the graphics look nice, and then the overall game perform kinda slow if its the RAM? I mean I have a kinda good video card, though I know its old. Its a 256 MB GeForce FX 5500. So i'm just confused when I dont see ANY change graphics wise in the game at ALL. It just looks like it did when I still had my old 32mb video card in there.. All your help is appreciated guys, please help me solve this issue, Thanks.

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Try adjusting your Vieo card resolution and set the the same resolution in FS9 display options.Bill M

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Turn off everything which is unnecessary. Use Task Manager to see what other processes are running. Active antivirus, antispyware programs are a no-no. How much spare disk space have you on your FS2004 drive?

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Did you let FS build a new config file? If not the rename FS9.cfg to something like FS9.cfg.org, then start FS9. Make some changes such as display settings, joystick axes, buttons, and keys. Now exit from FS9 and you'll find a new FS9.cfg file. It will contain settings for you new video card whereas your old config file probably still has settings for your old card and may or may not have the new card drfined.This may not fix anything but it may and it can't hurt to try.R-

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Thanks for all your replies guys, its much appreciated.I set the resolution of my video card to the same as in FS9, still the same thing. I turned off all unecessary programs, etc, ONLY FS9 was running, still the same thing. I have around 25GB of hard drive space left. I also let FS9 build a new config file, still the same thing. The graphics just wont improve.. It just looks horrible. I've tested this video card with 2 other games today on this computer, and they run perfectly with very good graphics. More help would be appreciated guys, Thanks a lot for your support.

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I would suspect your Celeron processor and lack of RAM as being the problem.I'm running FS9 with triple monitors/triple views quite nicely on an even older system- AMD XP2200 1.8 Athlon, 2GB RAM & 2 GeForce FX5200 cards. Runs so well I have no plans to upgrade.Alex Reid Lining up KSFO R28R Night Approachhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/191628.jpg

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Thanks for the reply. I have tested this same PC with Counter Strike Source, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, etc. They run flawlessly. How come only Flight Simulator has this issue of bad graphics?Thanks, all help is appreciated.

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I think the likely answer is that Flight Simulator is MUCH more demanding of hardware than most/all games.Alex Reid

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Well, I did a little experiment. I just downloaded the demo of FSX on my computer and guess what. Runs with fine graphics, not anywhere perfect of course, but it runs smooth and fine. It's kind of slow, as expected because I dont have a good amount of RAM. So this leads me to believe its some kind of setting problem within FS 2004 that's causing the poor graphics problem. I've opted to completely uninstall FS2004, and do a fresh reinstall, hopefully that will fix this problem.Thanks a lot for your support.

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check in game:options/settings/display go to hardware section and make sure the current video device is selected. sometimes it still tries using the old onboard graphics.

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Thanks for the reply, I changed the settings, no change :(

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Detailed clouds consume lots of CPU processing power. Change to simple clouds, sight distance 50 miles, percentage 50.Have you a recent version of FSUIPC? Use it to clear all weather.

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HelloI know your card is fairly old now,but you should still be getting much better results than you are at present.I used to have a radeon 9200SE card(a very basic card that came with my comp when i bought it)and i used to get very good results certainly nothing like your screenshots AND i didn't have to use BASIC clouds.I now use a GForce 6600 (not super duper)but FS is fine with it.(but not really that much better than my old Radeon).PS i notice that you have your sight distance set at one hundred miles you should perhaps set that to the minimum(sixty i think).I suspect that this will probably not really change things but worth trying everything in these situations, i notice you have water effects set to full try turning them o ff as well(bloomin horrible anyway in my humble opinion of course).As someone else suggested have you looked at your FS9 CFG file to see that your card is selected?I still think you should get a reasonably decent sim experience with your card.cheers Andy

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Hi,You must be able to run FS2004 ways far better of what you show us actually...For infos .. this is my hardwares/softwares specifications:Windows XP SP1aCPU P4 3Ghz1 GB memory on boardGraphic card Nvidia chipset TI 4600 128 MB memoryDrivers ExtremeG 78.03DirectX 9.0c (latest release)Old PCI 128 sound card SoundblasterHard disk SATA (WD)first generation 120GBWith Windows XP and FS2004 tweaked at the best of my knowledge ... FS2004 run perfectly and almost smoothly with a frame rate of 22 (FPS)Please check few of my videos there:http://www.vimeo.com/1542518http://www.vimeo.com/1541154http://www.vimeo.com/1539951http://www.vimeo.com/1536060http://www.vimeo.com/931083http://www.vimeo.com/1278729http://www.vimeo.com/929295I readed all the answers above and this is in some wise advices !Be sure your onboard GPU is disabled in BIOWill be nice if you have more memory onboard.Be sure to enable the antialiasing filter in the GPU console and not in the game settings.Be sure to reduce your visibility to a nice distance 40 -50 milesPlay also with the weather settings.Remember:FS2004 very demanding in CPU time.Be sure to run FS2004 in a clean softwares environement (no antivirus running in background ..etc ...)This is a exerpt of my FS9.CFG ..(I know settings for me are maybe not the optimum for you .. but save yours and try them for have a look! all varies from machine to machine)Mode=1280x1024x32TriLinear=1TextureAGP=0PanelAsTexture=0[DISPLAY]UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=22TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=1950TextureMaxLoad=1024WarnBadSecondary=0RUNWAY_LIGHTS_SURFACE_SCALAR=0.7RUNWAY_LIGHTS_VASI_SCALAR=0.7RUNWAY_LIGHTS_APPROACH_SCALAR=1.0RUNWAY_LIGHTS_STROBE_SCALAR=1.0[TERRAIN]TERRAIN_ERROR_FACTOR=50.000000TERRAIN_MIN_DEM_AREA=10.000000TERRAIN_MAX_DEM_AREA=100.000000TERRAIN_MAX_VERTEX_LEVEL=21TERRAIN_TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=8TERRAIN_AUTOGEN_DENSITY=4TERRAIN_USE_GRADIENT_MAP=1TERRAIN_EXTENDED_TEXTURES=1TERRAIN_DEFAULT_RADIUS=3.500000TERRAIN_EXTENDED_RADIUS=4.500000TERRAIN_EXTENDED_LEVELS=232TERRAIN_USE_VECTOR_OBJECTS=0Cheers.

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1. Make sure the onboard card is disabled (as already mentioned).2. Don't use the most recent drivers. The more recent the driver, the more chances of them breaking something in older cards. Use whatever driver was the latest released when the next generation of cards showed up.

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A couple of things stand out.1) MSFS is processor and memory intensive vs other games that hand off the graphics to the GPU and dedicated video memory as much as possible. It has been admitted in Aces Blogs that even FSX has this issue which hopefully will be fixed in FS11. 2) 512MB of RAM is NOT going to get you crisp visuals in FS9. FS9 will tax a 2GB system and can even swamp a 4GB system given the right circumstances. 512MB of RAM is barely enough to run Windows properly much less FS9 which will also consume your RAM to load textures into.3) The reason you see a blurry mess is due to the fact that there are not enough resources left to load textures into. Even if you had ALL of your memory resources available (which you don't) you'd still only have a total of 768MB of RAM if you add your main system + video memory together. FS9 swaps textures into and out of your main system memory in addition to many other things that need to be loaded in there.4) You have a PCI video card. You will get poor performance in a PCI video card for graphically intensive games because the bandwidth is so limited on the PCI backplane. AGP tried to solve this at 8x and PCIe solves this at 8x and 2x8x=16x. That faster you can get the graphics to the GPU from the CPU the better your performance and the elimination of the bottleneck.What can you do to fix your issue? If you don't change anything on your system, nothing. FS9 does not behave like other games which is why you see no difference between your 32MB card and your 256MB card. You MAY be able to get crisper textures if you lower your resolution.A) Upgrade your RAM to at least 2GB and you'll get rid of the blurries (in addition to a little FS9.cfg tweaking):( Get an AGP minimum video card which will assist with performance.Brute Force is the only way to get performance and better visuals in FS9 and FSX. Fast CPU, lots of fast memory, fast hard drive, PCIe video card (AGP 8x will slide you by). Unfortunately, with 512MB of RAM and a Celeron 2.4 what you see on your screen is probably as good as it will get on your system. Regards,Mike T.

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