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turning during pushback in FS9?

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Well I'll be darned! All this time I was sometimes backing into other planes. Boy were they p----d!

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For PMDG planes- In the upper Menu Bar- see PMDG/Settings. In General/Keyboard Commands, I have Push Back set to Num 2, PBL set to Num 4, PBR set to Num 6. These commands then work on the ARROW keys with Num Lock On- left arrow, back arrow, right arrow at the lower centre of the keyboard. Hit the back arrow again to stop the pushback in progress.You can also use the Num Keyboard keys 4,6,2 that have arrows- if Num lock is off.Works for both PMDG 737/747. I refer to FS9 only- no knowledge of FSX.Very handy commands!Alex Reid

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>After shift-p, press 1 for tail left, 2 for tail right.ok, I tried it but doesn't do anything. still keeps going straight back. Are you talking about the 1 and 2 on the number pad or the number row above the letters?

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right from their helpsite:In Flight Simulator 2004 - A Century of Flight, you must push back your aircraft from the parked location before you request the ATC for clearance to taxi to the runway.To push back an aircraft from its parked location to the taxiway, follow these steps:Press SHIFT+P to push the aircraft straight back.To turn the tail of the aircraft to the left, press the 1 key.To turn the tail of the aircraft to the right, press the 2 key.To stop the aircraft, press SHIFT+P.Note Do not use the numeric pad keys to push back the aircraft.one thing to note, the aircraft will travel it own length after you press the 1 or 2 key BEFORE turning.

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>one thing to note, the aircraft will travel it own length after you>press the 1 or 2 key BEFORE turning.And another thing to note, after pressing Shift+p, do NOT change views or press any other keys before pressing the 1 or 2.R-

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yes I found that out. I was pushing back, hit the 1 key and nothing happened, but after a bit, it did. guess it was pushing back its length. got it now. thanks!

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If you want to experience proper pushback get AES.....but be warned once you have tried AES pushback ...you will never go back. :-outta

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Indeed, some have sold almost all they own to buy AES credits :-hah regards,Mark

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>>one thing to note, the aircraft will travel it own length>after you>>press the 1 or 2 key BEFORE turning.>>And another thing to note, after pressing Shift+p, do NOT>change views or press any other keys before pressing the 1 or>2.>>R-Hey wow, now I got it. I was changing views in between so I followed these directions and it worked perfectly backing out of my gate at KDFW. Made a nice left turn going backward, turned about 90 degrees and I was pointed right onto the taxiway and without bumping into another plane! All this time I didn't know FS9 had this feature. Thanks guys/gals.

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I actually stopped using AES after I found Rob Barendregt's Groundhandling gauges for FS2004! You can find the complete cluster here at AVSIM by doing an Advanced Search on Rob's name -- the file name is RCBgh-40.zip.It gets installed in every one of my planes now.

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>I actually stopped using AES after I found Rob Barendregt's>Groundhandling gauges for FS2004! You can find the complete>cluster here at AVSIM by doing an Advanced Search on Rob's>name -- the file name is RCBgh-40.zip.>>It gets installed in every one of my planes now.I still use Rob's excellent gauge if an airport is not AES equipped, and it is very useful for controlling taxispeed on aircraft that want to run away with themselves!But it does not even come close to AES for pushback. IMHOAES is the only system that provides proper and accurate pushback....and the only system that makes you feel that you are being pushedback as opposed to pushing the aircraft back yourself.Plus the truck driver will make a good job of it as opposed the hash up that inevitably one does. For those who do not use Ctrl+E this is a time to concentrate on engine start.I also find it such an untidy start to a flight if my nosewheel is not on the taxiway line and the aircraft not in line with it.:)

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Ed:Does AES tie into ATC or Radar Contact in some way so that it doesn't back you into another plane taxiing behind you? I hate that! That's the one problem with doing pushbacks manually . . . If you forget to look behind you even once, you end up with a bent plane!

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>Ed:>>Does AES tie into ATC or Radar Contact in some way so that it>doesn't back you into another plane taxiing behind you? I>hate that! That's the one problem with doing pushbacks>manually . . . If you forget to look behind you even once,>you end up with a bent plane!One of the reasons I use FS ATC and not Radar Contact is because FS ATC looks after my AI.If AES pushes you back onto a taxiway that has an AI coming a long it...FS ATC will tell the oncoming AI to hold because you are now in its way.

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FS should stop an aircraft whether or not you are running FS ATC AFAIK. I see it happening when using RC. In either case it does not work all the time.One example is if I am on an opposing taxiway across a runway threshold, when I start moving to position and hold, the opposing aircraft waits.The same happens when I am taxiing to a runway and an AI is taxiing back and we get stalled nose-to-nose.

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With me, I notice the AI stops ONLY if it is BEHIND me on the same taxiway. But if we're opposing or intersecting, the AI will usually just cut me off with any notifications OR I am the one directed to hold short, even though I am closer to the intersecting point and was on the taxiway first. Seems that AI almost always gets priority.

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Yes,FS ATC and AI are far from perfect....but AES pushback pretty much is and getting better. :)

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